So did Solskjaer
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Obviously a good manager with tactical nous is important but these days we also need a Technical Director and, more importantly for City, we desperately need a new approach to recruitment. Our track record in that department is poor at best.
I have to agree. The management of the club as a whole doesn't make sense to me. We just wasted a massive business opportunity. And it seems like there's no plan for the future. I just watched Leicester demolish Arsenal this morning. I don't expect us to ever win the League, but it doesn't seem unreasonable for us to at least be able to match the likes of Leicester, Bournemouth, Watford and Wolves.
Go. Bring in someone to mould a new side with a different approach to our long ball game.
If he's going to leave in a season or two, I don't get what we have to gain by keeping him for another season. Anyone who comes in will have a rebuilding job to do to impose their style of play on the team. When better than now, once we've gone down? Suppose he won us promotion again next season. Would we want him in charge again in the PL? I wouldn't. He's proved that the top flight is out of his depth in terms of tactics and football played. Would he want yet another season? If we went up and got a new manager in, they'd likely want to change things. Not the best of times to be doing that unless we've got funds to do so.
I hope that Warnock stays. Without him we would not have had a season in the Premiership. Think people have got very short memories. Just hope that Vincent Tann provides the funds for a striker + midfielder and if so we could then possibly attempt to get promoted straight back up into the Premiership?
Dave Jones' last season
Malky's first season
Malky's second season
Malky and Ole
Ole and Slade
Slade
Trollope and Warnock
Warnock's first season
Warnock's second season
Most of our recent past has been travelling in a very different direction to what came shortly before. We had a long term plan maybe just twice (Malky's first season, Trollope's short term reign) before Warnock had a summer window here. I don't think we'll reach where Leicester are now for at least 5 years of constant growth, such is the boost that winning the league has lead to, but we can aim for Leicester pre-league win for sure: that side had an identity, effective scouting programme and were already a big part of their local community with good facilities to match. That's the argument for keeping Warnock, spending on facilities and scouting programme, and allowing him to finish the job he started two years ago instead of another managerial change. Leicester were also bold in replacing managers at the right time and that may be the argument against.
The worst thing to do would be to try to completely change identity again.
And then what? New manager to rip up things with a more modern approach or continuation with a manager who will be 72 with a track record of failure in the top division? This is my problem. If we need to rebuild and have a more modern style, now is the time to do it.
Go, because if we got promoted again we would never kick on. We need a fresh start with a new manager, somebody with modern ideas about how the game should be played.
If we're relegated, stay. If we manage to survive in the Prem, then go with lots of thanks for an amazing job.
The problem is we will never get promoted unless Warnock stays with his record in the Championship. Several posts fail to appreciate that Warnock has been operating on a budget that means he has to set up the team according to ability and deploy tactics suited to the players we have.
If he were to go now he'd go an a high with a legacy intact allowing a new young manager the funds necessary to implement a new style
I think it was because you named Gerrard's biggest achievement as a manager and you said you could also achieve that, thereby intimating that you are Gerrard's equal as a manager, therefore inadvertently suggesting that if he's being considered for the Cardiff City job then you should as well. I can see how he got there.
In terms of the thread, I agree with Jon1959
Bingo.
As I posted earlier, I fail to see what long term good could be achieved by keeping him on. That's not to sound ungrateful for the excellent job he's done. If he was younger and more long term planning I'd maybe reconsider, but he's not. It's about the here and now. If he could have kept us up it would have been the perfect opportunity to hand over the reins. Now we're going down (bar an absolute miracle) we need to have a longer term plan than one season of Warnock.
Cowley likes to play a direct style of football with an emphasis on pace and set plays - ring a bell?
Not criticising it and they have done extremely well to get where they have - perhaps they would be a good fit for us when Neil retires but not just yet - a young manager playing swash buckling football from the lower leagues is the approach Ipswich took this season with Paul Hurst - they were soon looking for a safe pair of hands. There's life in the old dog yet but I could have kicked him up the arse for the way we played yesterday.
If we have the opportunity to employ the most successful manager in the history of the championship who knows our players inside out and has already achieved promotion with that club and knows where improvements are needed rather than a whole new approach and a whole new squad with a club that is still heavily in debt I reckon that he would be the man
Luckily we have business men running the club not emotionally reactive football supporters who would be averaging 4 or 5 managers a season.
I have no idea but just a hunch that a multi million pound business with highly paid directors and successful business men at the helm have things called business plans in place where they discuss where the business is going in the next 5 years and have succession plans in place and during these meetings they discuss when the operations manager is going to retire and which direction they want to go. I think maybe just maybe they know when Neil if he stays healthy plans to finish.
I think that is probably a better solution than a bunch of blokes saying stay or go anonymously on an internet forum though I do appreciate the fantastic planning that goes into these polls.
If we get promoted again would you want Warnock to stay? I doubt very much if any new manager would be able to work with all of the players that Warnock left behind, so we are looking at a rebuilding job, and that is why I am saying make the change now. Another promotion with Warnock would end up with the same outcome, and we would be no further down the road. What we need is a total rethink from top to bottom, because at the momet we are not a viable Premier League proposition, and applying a few more sticky plasters isn't going to hide that fact.
Stay
Not sure as the under 18s have done okay this season?
It appears others have explained why we got where we are in terms of our forum tennis so no need to further that bit but delighted with Man city result and I'm sure so was every other Cardiff city fan as it means that come the final day man city still need to beat Brighton for the league which means if we beat palace then it is still all to play for 👍 so not sure why you think I would be upset?
Stay
Come on Neil, get the players fighting for two more games.
Go.
If we do get relegated, and if we were then to mount a promotion challenge next season, it would be just a case of déjà vu with Warnock at the helm. I wouldn't trust him with any kind of war chest, he prefers the type of players who are.. "Strong in the arm, thick in the head", carthorses who'll run all day! Victor Camarasa is the exception to this, but he wasn't really scouted by us, he landed on our doorstep courtesy of the friendly match we played pre-season against Real Betis and the influence his girlfriend had on helping him make the decision to join us. He was a last minute signing, imagine how bereft of ability our midfield would have further been without him.
It frustrates the hell out of me to continually see all of our summer outlays sitting on the bench each game or not even making the matchday squad.
A Premier League club and we resorted to bringing on a striker who was on loan at Milton Keynes Dons in League Two. Danny Ward who's done little in his time at the club (not for a want of trying, in fairness) to inspire any real confidence in the fans was greeted onto the pitch against Fulham as if he was the next messiah, such was our desperation.
Our widemen are usually burnt out in games because of Warnocks insistence that they track back and help out our defence, a policy that puts them more in the critical spotlight for any defensive mistakes they might make, rather than encourage attacking flair and prowess.
I found it mind-numbing to watch our football at times, even those teams below us (Huddersfield & Fulham) have looked much more comfortable on the ball and dominated possession against us.
A big thank you for all what you've done for our club Neil, you are like the Red Adair of football.