Don’t believe a thing that comes out of China
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All we have to worry about from China now is their latest outbreak of Bubonic Plague. That would make this look like child's play if it broke out seriously.
It'swhen it become pneumonic that it really kicks off. Hence the nursery rhyme 'Ring a ring a rosies'
OK, in the unlikely scenario that people are reading xsnaggle's post and taking it seriously and, maybe, even taking it so seriously they have a sense of panic or fear, here are the facts to add a sense of perspective.
There have been 31 reported cases of Bubonic Plague in the country of China between 2009 and 2019. An average of 3 a year in a country that has, roughly, about 1/7th of the world's population.
There has been a reported case in Inner Mongolia. The affected village has been sealed off.
In the US, there has been an average of 7 plague cases between 1970-2018 (range of 1-17), 80% in bubonic form.
Hence the nursery rhyme "Hush little baby"
Given that few believe that the original numbers for this virus reported by China were actually correct, why should anyone believe their reported numbers on the plague?
If the numbers are so small and insignificant why are they being so up front at all, unless its to prepare the ground for the reality later? :shrug:
So, because "few people" believe the covid figures reported in China, you make the illogical conclusion that these figures are also false without determining that the covid-19 figures are false.
China have been reporting cases of the bubonic plague since 2009, at an average of 3 a year.
At which stage do we stop believing their figures? 2009? 2012? 2019? If it is 2009, then, using your logic "If the numbers are so small and insignificant why are they being so up front at all, unless its to prepare the ground for the reality later? :shrug:", and I would ask how long do they need to "prepare the ground for"?
If it is 2019, then why have they been reporting cases since 2009?
Sorry, but there isn't a lot of sense in your argument.
(Too many Brits take too little personal responsibility for their health, junk food is everywhere and the state does not help those most in need. Two thirds of those who have died from Covid in the UK were already living with disability, and 80% had one or more pre-existing illnesse)
The above is is so true, balanced with fact we are very ill disciplined and selfish when it comes to others, our eating and drinking is excessive, proven by our poor diabetics and obesity statistics , no wonder the virus has had a field day in the UK , the USA is the same , overweight ,poor lazy eaters ,lack of fitness and personal health standards .
And still they have a lead in the polls, what's wrong with people?
https://twitter.com/davidschneider/s...87845157486593
But I thought
We may manage flu like viruses better via our DNA.
We have less elderly.
Quality of life for elderly better in UK than in rural parts of Italy and Spain.
Better health services.
More disposable income to support a varied diet
Better public health than the outer rural areas of Spain and Italy.
Its vastness of land , may hinder health care reach
No-one can accuse you of not being balanced on this one!
And another one;-
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...wsApp_AppShare
Obviously people aren't as intelligent as you
Bob.
Either that or they remember the mess that was the Labour Party just a few short months ago.
My dislike of Jeremy Corbyn is I think well known on this board but perhaps the only times I felt the faintest thing of sympathy towards him was with some of the more outlandish media stories on him (not all stories,sometimes he deserved what he got) and when he would make some comment in the morning to find himself stabbed in the back by one of his shadow cabinet in the afternoon.
One of the worst culprits was his Brexit Shadow minister.
One Sir Keir Starmer.
I don't trust the man but perhaps that will change in time
Don't get me wrong I think the Governnent has got many things wrong recently, and I have never thought that Boris Johnson was the ideal choice as Prime Minister.
But politics by twitter quote leaves me cold, especially when it is by some C grade celebrity on either side of the arguement who wouldn't see good in the other side if hell froze over.
Incidentally I'm not desperately impressed with Dido Harding and her new post either but I don't need David Schneider to tell me that!
Well at least one Tory is willing to say why they still favour them and it seems to be the usual "yeah, but what about Labour?" stuff. I did not mention any other party, I'm just bemused as to what it will take for people who, on the one hand, seem almost embarrassed to admit they are Tories to start to question their allegiance!
Did you know that besides being involved with an organisation that was advocating the abolition of Public Health England, Dido Harding's husband was the Government's anti corruption "Champion"? I didn't, so whether it be politics by Twitter quote or not, David Schneider was passing on something that was relevant and informative, but, like lardy, it seems that it is who is revealing that information that is most important to those who defend this Government, not what he revealed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Wgmyl2Z1w
The video has an element of bias in its tone, but it is completely factual. In fact, when you lay out the facts, it is difficult not to sound anti-Government or biased.
There's been nearly four months since that video was released as well, this list of Government U turns contains a few things that have happened since late April.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/the-n...oken-promises/
Government apologists have been keen to bring the Labour party into the conversation presumably because they cannot think of anything positive to say about Johnson and co, but just imagine what they would be saying about such a roll of shame if it had been a Labour Government, or any other party besides the Conservatives, elected in December with a record like that?
Politically, I have never voted for one singular party. It very often changes. However, there is one mainstream party I have never been able to vote for, and that is the Conservative Party. That is purely because they have never struck me as a party that cares for people who fall on hard times, and I have always said that hard times are only a bad day away for most people. I find the concept of voting for one party all through a lifetime a bit strange because parties evolve. The Labour Party that my granddad voted for in 1997 was not the same beast as the one he voted for in 1983.
So, it is sad to see that "staunch Tory voters" are reduced to saying nonsense like "imagine how much worse it would have been if Corbyn had got in?". It's a useful line because it is purely hypothetical, and in the hypothesis it is assumed that Corbyn would have made a mess of it. It's difficult to argue against without hypothesising yourself.
lisvaneblue, who seems to be very anti-Drakeford and not very anti-Johnson (despite the Welsh handling of the crisis post lockdown being much better than the English), has replied to the video by pointing out one inaccuracy and has completely ignored the roll of shame.
I defended the Government when locking down, I still think it was the right thing to do and it very likely saved a lot of lives and saved the NHS. However, during the lockdown huge mistakes were made, not least the decision to release hospital patients into the care system. In time, that will be seen as the most idiotic decision made by a British Government in decades. The decision to rush out of lockdown (in light of removing the spotlight from Cummings and onto good news) will also be seen to be negligent in time. Labour, and Blair, may be accused of introducing "spin" into politics (although Thatcher had a very good spin team) - but Johnson spins us out of the stratosphere. Diverging from the science to divert attention from Cummings was obvious to anyone with half an ounce of sense, as is the increase in anti-migration rhetoric whenever his Government has a bad day.
As for bad days, well the BTEC results were held back today affecting 450,000 young kids. We had the A level fiasco last week affecting thousands of kids. Did we have any statement from Johnson, or is his holiday still of paramount importance?