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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
People in the UK are not failing to protest about Chinese breaches of human rights because, and I quote: "the media are focussing on the event that they hope will end Trump's presidency." The brutal truth of the matter is that the British public are not protesting about Chinese breaches of human rights because they don't care enough about what's happening in China.
It seems you know little about China. Besides that, Trump losing in the November elections could see Brexit becoming no longer viable, so the media are all in.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...d-report-warns
https://time.com/5557951/china-inter...-global-media/
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It seems you know little about China.
You're right, which is the point I've been making all along. I know little about China. Just as I know little about most of the other places around the world where human rights atrocities are committed on a daily basis. Unlike some people, I don't pretend to either.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
You're right, which is the point I've been making all along. I know little about China. Just as I know little about most of the other places around the world where human rights atrocities are committed on a daily basis. Unlike some people, I don't pretend to either.
China were so successful in controlling the Coronavirus narrative via the WHO and world media, that there were people on here repeating the Chinese Communist Party line.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
China were so successful in controlling the Coronavirus narrative via the WHO and world media, that there were people on here repeating the Chinese Communist Party line.
There were people on here quoting David Icke.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
There were people on here quoting David Icke.
What were the quotes?
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
What were the quotes?
I don't know. I wasn't paying much attention. Probably something to do with lizards, though.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
China were so successful in controlling the Coronavirus narrative via the WHO and world media, that there were people on here repeating the Chinese Communist Party line.
Has that now been confirmed by anyone?
There is a lot of news out there, it's hard to keep up
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I don't know. I wasn't paying much attention. Probably something to do with lizards, though.
You can't say that!
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Yes and one could well argue the Chinese record on human rights freedom of speach it's as bad or worse than the awful racism in the USA, no big protests though, even when you see what will soon be imposed on Hong Kong freedoms
I’ve been wondering about HK lately. Surely China have to abide by the terms of the handover agreement written in 1997? I can’t see how they think they can get away with it.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
goats
I’ve been wondering about HK lately. Surely China have to abide by the terms of the handover agreement written in 1997? I can’t see how they think they can get away with it.
What were the terms?
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
CCFCC3PO
What were the terms?
I don’t know but surely it was to continue roughly the way it was with 1 country 2 systems or whatever they call it. No doubt protesters in HK will start to disappear in the next few years.....
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
goats
I’ve been wondering about HK lately. Surely China have to abide by the terms of the handover agreement written in 1997? I can’t see how they think they can get away with it.
Why? They don't take any notice of much else if it doesn't suit them. If they choose not to take notice who is going to do anything about it really?
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
Has that now been confirmed by anyone?
There is a lot of news out there, it's hard to keep up
Coronavirus began 'as an accident' in Chinese lab, says former MI6 boss
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...caped-chinese/
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
goats
I’ve been wondering about HK lately. Surely China have to abide by the terms of the handover agreement written in 1997? I can’t see how they think they can get away with it.
What is to stop them?
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
What is to stop them?
I know....you wonder if lots of countries will go against them on this though, didn’t lots already start something? What they did to the peaceful people of Tibet is one thing, HK is a different kettle of fish no? Maybe it’s time to stop doing business with China to force them to conform? If this virus has taught us anything surely it’s we should be making more stuff here now and not relying on importing it from the other side of the world. I’m not saying any of this is easy, but we have to start somewhere.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Where are you getting your news?! It was on non stop, we even had the british far right start wear the same vests after it
Like I said on Ruptly at the time as there was no coverage at the time on MSM
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
a) The Gilet Jaune protests were very well covered, please see this link as a breakdown of just some of the times they were featured in reports, with links to clips
https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...-vest-protests
b) As you've said, the Black Lives Matter protests have been going on for 5 days, if you think they'll still be getting the same amount of coverage as they are now if they're still going on in a month then you've got a very poor understanding of how news cycles work, especially when it comes to things that happen outside of this country. Add to that they're mostly happening in the country we're culturally closest to and it doesn't really take anyone who's not a complete idiot to understand why it's leading the news at the moment.
c) I'll tell you what is strange "innit", you've literally made something up - "virtually no TV coverage" - just so you can be negative about the BLM protests. But rather than saying that you don't like seeing those black people protest because you know that's not really a good look for you, you've tried to be clever and gone "yeah but what about this, isn't that interesting, I wonder why that is hmmm ehhhh?."
d) Don't ever try to be clever again, it's gone awfully for you.
I have not been negative about BLM at all. For your information I am of ethnic background myself. So not trying to be clever at all. Both events were/are just causes, just saying there is disparity in coverage. Don't try and put words in other peoples mouths it's not a good look for you.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
ihatealiens2
I have not been negative about BLM at all. For your information I am of ethnic background myself. So not trying to be clever at all. Both events were/are just causes, just saying there is disparity in coverage. Don't try and put words in other peoples mouths it's not a good look for you.
Well if you weren't being negative you were just making stuff up for no reason then. I suppose that's better :shrug:
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Well if you weren't being negative you were just making stuff up for no reason then. I suppose that's better :shrug:
That's a poor attempt at trying to be a clever kent, just making yourself look like an ignorant pwick.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
ihatealiens2
That's a poor attempt at trying to be a clever kent, just making yourself look like an ignorant pwick.
Ok mate, carry on :thumbup:
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
Noticed some horrific footage of violence in Ireland apparently to do with BLM, yet the press aren't covering it, I wonder why not ?, I notice posters on social media are pondering the same thing.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
Noticed some horrific footage of violence in Ireland apparently to do with BLM, yet the press aren't covering it, I wonder why not ?, I notice posters on social media are pondering the same thing.
Obviously I don't know what you're referring to, but are you sure it's genuine? There's a lot of old footage that is mislabelled and then does the rounds on social media.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Obviously I don't know what you're referring to, but are you sure it's genuine? There's a lot of old footage that is mislabelled and then does the rounds on social media.
Worse than America (i know they have had deaths in America but in my book this is the worst violence I've seen, so bad people would not repost it).
It seems like the Irish press aren't really covering it from comments, I can only think the Irish press don't want to cover it incase it encourages a race war or something (everything points to it being up to date and not fake).
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
Worse than America (i know they have had deaths in America but in my book this is the worst violence I've seen, so bad people would not repost it).
It seems like the Irish press aren't really covering it from comments, I can only think the Irish press don't want to cover it incase it encourages a race war or something (everything points to it being up to date and not fake).
Well that's interesting, that a news story which has unbelievably been bigger for the last week than even covid-19 and there's a country which is suffering incredibly badly that is actually joined on to the UK, and yet the only sniff that I've heard of about this is trampie09 who swears by it.
Can you provide a link, or has it all been mysteriously removed from the internet already so as not to inflame things more?
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Well that's interesting, that a news story which has unbelievably been bigger for the last week than even covid-19 and there's a country which is suffering incredibly badly that is actually joined on to the UK, and yet the only sniff that I've heard of about this is trampie09 who swears by it.
Can you provide a link, or has it all been mysteriously removed from the internet already so as not to inflame things more?
Just put in 'Irish boy stabbed' on twitter, it's horrific, the first thing I seen now looking for you is they have fuzzed out the boys face, that wasn't the case when I seen it yesterday it was covered in blood, lots of comments about the press not covering what was going on, that is only 1 instance, there was apparently 3 seperate incidents and 2 videos, the other video is a hell of a 'kicking', the language used is not good, slaves and all that I'm not revisiting either.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
Just put in 'Irish boy stabbed' on twitter, it's horrific, the first thing I seen now looking for you is they have fuzzed out the boys face, that wasn't the case when I seen it yesterday it was covered in blood, lots of comments about the press not covering what was going on, that is only 1 instance, there was apparently 3 seperate incidents and 2 videos, the other video is a hell of a 'kicking', the language used is not good, slaves and all that I'm not revisiting either.
This one?
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breaki...t-1003815.html
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
Possibly, but it's a job to know from that as it's not really a report as such, just the Irish police asking for witnesses and any dash cam evidence to come forward and there has been more than one incident so who knows.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
Possibly, but it's a job to know from that as it's not really a report as such, just the Irish police asking for witnesses and any dash cam evidence to come forward and there has been more than one incident so who knows.
Well I hope it's put your mind at rest that such instances are getting reported in the press.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Well I hope it's put your mind at rest that such instances are getting reported in the press.
Well you had not heard about it, I only heard about it off social media and there are loads and loads of comments on social media about a lack of reporting about these particular Irish incidents by the main stream media.
I'm glad I can enlighten you to what is going on as you was clearly ignorant.
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Re: Protesting, and the power of the media.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
Well you had not heard about, I only heard about it off social media and there are loads and loads of comments on social media about a lack of reporting about these particular Irish incidents by the main stream media.
I'm glad I can enlighten you to what is going on as you was clearly ignorant.
No I hadn't heard about it. Is that significant? I bet there's at least one or two other stories published in the press in the English speaking world that I also haven't heard about.
"It seems like the Irish press aren't really covering it from comments"
It seems like they are and maybe social media comments are not the best thing to go by :thumbup: