NML came from League 1. So did Moore. He's here to do a job until the end of the season - Just like McCarthy.
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We signed Moore from Wigan after he had a good season for them and had scored a decent amount of goals in the Championship. Wigan only got relegated because they went into administration and had a huge points deduction. They were mid-table before the points deduction came into play after the final whistle of their last game of the season.
Also, if you think Williams would only be here until the end of the season then why are we allegedly spending £200k on him? That would be even worse business than I already think it is.
The point is that Wales managers have picked him in front players with big reputations who have commanded and would command far bigger fees than £250k - straight away that makes him someone worth considering.
Your definition of the term crock is different to mine.
The point is that he's not better than what we have already in midfield and I don't rate our midfield at all.
Ralls, Vaulks, Pack and Bacuna would likely walk into any team in League One yet Williams isn't starting for Charlton.
Saying we need someone in midfield might as well say we need to sign "anyone" in midfield. Let's just sign Darren Pratley, I think he's getting more games than Williams at Charlton.
Some of the arguments on here today are honestly baffling to me.
If that is the argument: if they can't last 90mins then they surely must have the required quality to influence a game when they do play?
Williams has never shown that in League football.
I mentioned Wilshere earlier. I can see why Bournemouth took a punt on him as he's shown that he can perform in the Premier League despite his injury problems. Williams hasn't even looked a good quality Championship player when he's played in the division.
There's too many reasons not to sign him imo.
And some of the closed minds in this thread aren’t baffling me at all. The attitude already remarked upon about anybody who is more willing to consider the prospect of signing Williams only doing so because he is Welsh is a bit childish isn’t it? I set out at some length what I thought was a logical argument as to why in this particular case for this particular player the fact that he is Welsh is relevant- so far, it’s been completely ignored.
**** me this forum :hehe:
Let's have Johnny Williams playing as a 10 in front of Harry Arter and Joe Ledley, some of you guys have to be Swansea fans on a wind up
God knows where Williams got his nickname from, I think Will Vaulks has more contributions than Williams and he's only played 3 seasons at this level! As for him being Welsh, he may represent us internationally but the guy was born in Kent, let's not trip over ourselves for some injury prone league 1 player cause he has a few caps for Wales
... But some people have claimed that they want him to sign because he's Welsh and another poster has said that he's defending the signing a lot more than he would have if Williams wasn't Welsh. You can look back for yourself should you wish.
The other reasons that have been given include his age, his position on the pitch and the fact that he's affordable. Those reasons are completely baffling.
Your argument that he's been picked over other players for Wales on a few occasions doesn't seem like much of an argument to me to either.
How many competitive games did he start for Wales last year? 1. When we were missing Ramsey, Lawrence and Brooks (Ben Woodburn was even in the squad for that one btw)
How many times did he come on as a sub? 0
So, even though it's not quite as baffling as some other reasons given,
it's stilll not a strong argument to be made either imo.
If it was a loan until the end of the season then not a terrible idea.
I think if I was Tan I'd be asking MM to get the most from Wilson and then Tomlin hopefully back in a few weeks.
With a new manager expected in the summer I don't really like the idea of injury prone players coming in and I do see him as a bit of a niche kind it player for a new manager.
Not totally against it but probably rather we didn't.
I remember when we signed Will Vaulks, there were a fair few who were spinning cartwheels over the signing. I didn't have a clue as i'd never seen him play. Whenever we pick up a bit of an unknown player there's an expert or two on here who must've watched the respective player at least six times, not only that, but must have obviously studied said player. When Arter signed people were bigging up his ability to play and his obvious football brain, again, i didn't have a clue. I does make me reach the conclusion that some people on here are completely full of shit.
The more I find out about this man, this story MUST be bollocks.
If it happened, on the back of dropping Harry Wilson and repeated Flint selection. I'd be worried about MMs state of mind.
I really hope this transfer doesn't happen, this guy doesn't offer too much in my opinion.
Also I hope we don't get into this syndrome of signing players because they're Welsh; that would be a disastrous move. We need players here solely on merit and affordability. In which case I'd be much happier if we sought better bargains from the foreign market.