Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
SunderlandBluebird
Him, Dalman and Choo all as useless as each other. Not sure why Tan gets a free ride really apart from people thinking he plugs losses (losses that come from his own lack of interest and mismanagement of a football club). If we had an owner, chief exec and chairman that knew how to run a football club then the losses would not need to be plugged to the extent that they (supposedly) currently are.
Just out of interest, how long do you think that someone running a football club has to be in the job before he becomes ‘experienced’ at doing it. I wouldn't mind hazarding a guest that Dalman and Choo have been doing it a damn sight longer (and rather more successfully) than most other owners/chairmen/CEO’s currently in the EFL. I don't think anyone is trying to say that things are not going badly at the moment but the vast majority of their tenure has brought a sustained period of success, unprecedented certainly in my lifetime anyway. I think we need to show these people some respect and gratitude. For someone to call Choo just a ‘car salesman’ is ridiculous. He and Dalman are well qualified, successful and experienced businessmen.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Just out of interest, how long do you think that someone running a football club has to be in the job before he becomes ‘experienced’ at doing it. I wouldn't mind hazarding a guest that Dalman and Choo have been doing it a damn sight longer (and rather more successfully) than most other owners/chairmen/CEO’s currently in the EFL. I don't think anyone is trying to say that things are not going badly at the moment but the vast majority of their tenure has brought a sustained period of success, unprecedented certainly in my lifetime anyway. I think we need to show these people some respect and gratitude. For someone to call Choo just a ‘car salesman’ is ridiculous. He and Dalman are well qualified, successful and experienced businessmen.
I dont know what a 'qualified' businessman is, but they seem so focused on the balance sheet and how much VT is contributing each month (probably as theyve been instructed to), that theyve lost focus on what can be done on the field to help other areas of the financial reports.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Just out of interest, how long do you think that someone running a football club has to be in the job before he becomes ‘experienced’ at doing it. I wouldn't mind hazarding a guest that Dalman and Choo have been doing it a damn sight longer (and rather more successfully) than most other owners/chairmen/CEO’s currently in the EFL. I don't think anyone is trying to say that things are not going badly at the moment but the vast majority of their tenure has brought a sustained period of success, unprecedented certainly in my lifetime anyway. I think we need to show these people some respect and gratitude. For someone to call Choo just a ‘car salesman’ is ridiculous. He and Dalman are well qualified, successful and experienced businessmen.
Choo and Dalman have been lucky enough to do their jobs at a time when City had someone far richer than any previous owner of the club in place and yet they’ve still presided over a club which is on its worst run in thirty five years. With the money Tan has put in, we should be in a far better position in the table and not playing such mind numbingly boring football.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Wise up.
Best owner we've had for a very long time
Tan isn't great but he's the best out of the last few owners.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Had we gone out of business twelve years ago we would likely be where we are now just with a fan owned club or some sort of fan/private owned hybrid.
Tan is prick with an ego who thinks he can hush people with his megabucks.
We nearly did go out of business under sam hammam and it's not likely we would have been anywhere near the championship
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
Have you checked the table?
We're in a worse position than when he turned up.
All that despite the millions from the PL seasons and parachute payments.
But yeah they've done great....
Are you ankles or Sugarman?
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
No we wouldnt. I doubt wed even be back in the league.
Are there any one-team cities of half a million people that DONT have a team in the higher rungs of the efl ?
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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stan butler
We nearly did go out of business under sam hammam and it's not likely we would have been anywhere near the championship
Are there any one-team cities of half a million people that DONT have a team in the higher rungs of the efl ?
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Just out of interest, how long do you think that someone running a football club has to be in the job before he becomes ‘experienced’ at doing it. I wouldn't mind hazarding a guest that Dalman and Choo have been doing it a damn sight longer (and rather more successfully) than most other owners/chairmen/CEO’s currently in the EFL. I don't think anyone is trying to say that things are not going badly at the moment but the vast majority of their tenure has brought a sustained period of success, unprecedented certainly in my lifetime anyway. I think we need to show these people some respect and gratitude. For someone to call Choo just a ‘car salesman’ is ridiculous. He and Dalman are well qualified, successful and experienced businessmen.
Huw Jenkins did a better job
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Are there any one-team cities of half a million people that DONT have a team in the higher rungs of the efl ?
How many cities have a 500k+ population? It’s only a handful and all have more than one team I believe.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
Divine Wright
Are there any one-team cities of half a million people that DONT have a team in the higher rungs of the efl ?
There are no one-team cities of half a million people in the UK apart from Leeds.
Some sites quote misleading population figures based on metropolitan district populations (so some have Bradford over 500,000 but that includes a good few satellite towns).
Cardiff's population is around 340,000.
But with its bigger catchment area and capital city status it should be established in the Premier League regardless of city population.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
goats
Huw Jenkins did a better job
Huw Jenkins wasn't has bad as he's made out to be..
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
Are you ankles or Sugarman?
I know you're upset Stockholm, but it's a bit cowardly to bring me into the equation (by name) isn't it?
I've said nothing about Tan and his minions in recent times, so why mention me? By name? While hiding behind an anonymous username?
Re: People calling for Tan to go
Fair shout my apologies. :thumbup:
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
Fair shout my apologies.
Accepted.
:thumbup:
Re: People calling for Tan to go
In an ideal world the bullshitters who say they are proud to be welsh and have plenty of money would see what a successful football team does for a city and its region
But they are bullshitters
So we have had in the past local businessmen and now we have Vincent Tan
If my aunty had bollocks she would be my uncle
It is always thus
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
In an ideal world the bullshitters who say they are proud to be welsh and have plenty of money would see what a successful football team does for a city and its region
But they are bullshitters
So we have had in the past local businessmen and now we have Vincent Tan
If my aunty had bollocks she would be my uncle
It is always thus
What are you on about?
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
Llandaff Blue
What are you on about?
:hehe:
Re: People calling for Tan to go
The way the club is run is an utter farce. The board of directors consists of Dalman, Ken, Borley, Datuk Caramella, Derek Chin and Abdul Rasheed. There are non-league clubs with more football nous and knowledge than that lot.
Competitor clubs must look on in amazement at the way the money the club has been given from VT, the Premier League and parachute payments has been squandered.
How is it even possible for a team of such utter awfulness to take the field on Sunday? Dubious agents, Neil and James Warnock and sundry other characters have exploited the weapons-grade levels of incompetence of the ludicrous ‘transfer committee’ reducing us to that. God knows where we go from here.
Re: People calling for Tan to go
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Choo and Dalman have been lucky enough to do their jobs at a time when City had someone far richer than any previous owner of the club in place and yet they’ve still presided over a club which is on its worst run in thirty five years. With the money Tan has put in, we should be in a far better position in the table and not playing such mind numbingly boring football.
Maybe money isn't everything, and we ought to start with a good plan, get a good structure at the club, and start building where it doesn't need money pumped in to make changes.