Re: Brand Tax And IIts Margin
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Taunton Blue Genie
By the way, brands are considered to be a failure if they end up being used generically by the public for products and services available from rivals in the market - as any good reputation gained originally by the brand owner becomes diluted.
Examples being:
Escalator, Jet Ski, Bubble Wrap and Aspirin
P. S. Heroin was also a brand name.
Hoover
Re: Brand Tax And IIts Margin
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Des Parrot
Branston are now the top baked beans, Heinz have removed too much sugar & salt. Likewise Hellemans tomato sauce is better.
By the way in many cases the Premium brand make the white label & vice versa.
I was listening to a salesman once bullshitting about the virtues of three different printers, they were all made by the same company just different plastics. Same now with the automotive industry, we make exactly the same part for mass production companies as RR, Bentley, Porsche etc. but they charge their customers x times more
I used to have a Land Rover Freelander from the time that BMW owned LR. It had an engine used in many BMW cars. Many spares were cheaper from BMW than from LR.
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RichardM
I used to have a Land Rover Freelander from the time that BMW owned LR. It had an engine used in many BMW cars. Many spares were cheaper from BMW than from LR.
This has been commonplace for decades. I could bore you for hours about the use of common platforms and components across car marques, meaning that a Bentley will have much similarity with a Porsche, Lamborghini, Audi and maybe even VW itself for the parts that you don’t see.
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The Hooded Claw
This has been commonplace for decades. I could bore you for hours about the use of common platforms and components across car marques, meaning that a Bentley will have much similarity with a Porsche, Lamborghini, Audi and maybe even VW itself for the parts that you don’t see.
Actually it makes sense the more common the parts the cheaper the ned product, they should do it for morst parts.
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Concurring with several people on this thread we know that many branded items are sold with good reason to expect consumers to pay more for them whilst simple items like lettuces are more generic and can be purchased elsewhere.
We also know that people will pay a premium for the kudos of a brand itself and that a sparkling wine from a plot of land 1 metre outside the legally designated Champagne region can be as good as champers but can't attract that nomenclature. (The Russians refuse to ignore such internationally recognised diktats and sell pomagne to their citizens at a £1 or so a pop).
At the end of the day, we are free to source alternatives to major brands and have the nous to evaluate when it's sensible to do so.
Taxing expensive brands unduly is a recipe bfor disaster (pun intended).
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RichardM
Posh git..
When you say "Sainer's ' do you mean Sainsbury's?
P.S. It's Tesco, not Tescos
😀
Not really that Posh, just love the fresh almond croissants from Waitrose, grab a free coffee from the machine, its a winner, go in my white works van and watch the faces of the elderly posh folk as I park, its a double winner
indeed I do mean Sainsbury's ( a few of my older daughters friends work in our local one ), they shortened it to " sainer's " its a habit
I always add a " s " on the end of Asda and Tesco, it winds my 2 daughters up no end, it entertains me
Re: Brand Tax And IIts Margin
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
By the way, brands are considered to be a failure if they end up being used generically by the public for products and services available from rivals in the market - as any good reputation gained originally by the brand owner becomes diluted.
Examples being:
Escalator, Jet Ski, Bubble Wrap and Aspirin
P. S. Heroin was also a brand name.
Hoover :thumbup:
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North Cardiff Blue
Hoover
beat me to it :thumbup: I hadn't got to page 2 though :hehe:
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blue matt
beat me to it :thumbup: I hadn't got to page 2 though :hehe:
He's right too no one buys a hoover now, it's a dyson, shark, vax or gtech.
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Groceries here are outrageously expensive compared to the UK.
The big chain stores are a disgusting rip off.
Aldi and Lidl have been making gains around here as a result, where as years ago...people were kicking off about one being opened so close to the neighborhood.
My favourite are the two local Asian Grocery Stores.
They are a full on sensory explosion.
Amazing Sights and Smells, often fruit and vegetables you've never seen or heard of before.
The produce seems to be of a higher standard than the big stores.
The spices and oils are amazing.
You see an incredible diverse mix of people shopping there.
It seems really exotic for a Suburban American Strip Mall and it is waaaaay cheaper than the dreaded big guns.
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Wash DC Blue
Groceries here are outrageously expensive compared to the UK.
The big chain stores are a disgusting rip off.
Aldi and Lidl have been making gains around here as a result, where as years ago...people were kicking off about one being opened so close to the neighborhood.
My favourite are the two local Asian Grocery Stores.
They are a full on sensory explosion.
Amazing Sights and Smells, often fruit and vegetables you've never seen or heard of before.
The produce seems to be of a higher standard than the big stores.
The spices and oils are amazing.
You see an incredible diverse mix of people shopping there.
It seems really exotic for a Suburban American Strip Mall and it is waaaaay cheaper than the dreaded big guns.
Have the semi automatics gone up in Wallmart?
Do Aldi do cheap machine guns yet in the middle isles?
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blue matt
Not really that Posh, just love the fresh almond croissants from Waitrose, grab a free coffee from the machine, its a winner, go in my white works van and watch the faces of the elderly posh folk as I park, its a double winner
indeed I do mean Sainsbury's ( a few of my older daughters friends work in our local one ), they shortened it to " sainer's " its a habit
I always add a " s " on the end of Asda and Tesco, it winds my 2 daughters up no end, it entertains me
I do exactly the same thing to wind up my 15 year old granddaughter ! She gives me a withering look then shouts out "Bampi !!". Works every time lol
Re: Brand Tax And IIts Margin
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Taunton Blue Genie
Oh dear, oh dear. Reputable companies use brands and trademarks to convey to their consumers a particular quality of their goods and services and should enjoy a good reputation if they satisfy the consumer. Budget brands of baked beans could contain more salt or sugar, have lower quality values all round, the provenance of source materials may be questionable and hygiene processes may be inferior.
If you buy an M & S sandwich you pay a premium but you are aware of the quality of the item. A free market permits you to choose alternative brands but to imagine that they are always identical are obviously highly misguided.
I'm stating the bleedin' obvious really.
I remember a slogan Stella Artois used to employ (I'm not sure it's so pervasive now)......... "Reassuringly Expensive". Very clever I thought
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North Cardiff Blue
Have the semi automatics gone up in Wallmart?
Do Aldi do cheap machine guns yet in the middle isles?
"The middle isles"
Is this some geographic region in Lake Michigan?
If you were referring to Aisles, I will be sure to check for you next time I'm there.
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blue matt
beat me to it :thumbup: I hadn't got to page 2 though :hehe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X32tYnr2rOk
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Tito Fuente
The milk comparison you made:
Was it comparing Aldi brand milk to Cravendale?
No Aldi and Lidl have thier own versions at a very decent price..
Mind you Adsa is selling Cravendale 2 pinter for a quid at moment , it's my favourite milk so refreshing 😋
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Aldi has an extra special range the cottage pie, madras curry are exceptionally nice £3.79 I think ,and they do a nice wood fire pizza ...
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Dorcus
I remember a slogan Stella Artois used to employ (I'm not sure it's so pervasive now)......... "Reassuringly Expensive". Very clever I thought
Especially as it never was in Belgium - it’s country of origin.
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The Hooded Claw
Especially as it never was in Belgium - it’s country of origin.
Some of those Stella Artois ads were amazing short films. The budgets they had to shoot those back then would have been hefty.
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Citizen's Nephew
Some of those Stella Artois ads were amazing short films. The budgets they had to shoot those back then would have been hefty.
Edit: Had one in Verviers, Belgium recently for free on one of the hottest days as the barman took a liking to Mrs CN (does that make me a pimp?) but had another in Amsterdam a few days later which cost me an arm and a leg. I was on my own!