Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
You're not thinking it through.
What would be the point of cars having a speed limiter to stop them exceeding the legal speed limit of 70mph on motorways, if that same car could tow a caravan at that speed albeit 10mph above the legal limit?
because 99.9% of car journeys aren't towing a caravan
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
because 99.9% of car journeys aren't towing a caravan
And 99.9% of car journeys do not end up in an accident...yet..to go back to the theme of this thread, our leaders in Wales have decided that 20mph is the way to go despite survey from ministry of transport showing that cutting urban speed limit to 20mph caused no significant change in casualty rates.
This 20mph limit might well swell the confers at Cardiff Bay whilst the majority of drivers in Wales could end up with a criminal record and fines because they feel quite competent driving at the current UK urban limit of 30.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
And 99.9% of car journeys do not end up in an accident...yet..to go back to the theme of this thread, our leaders in Wales have decided that 20mph is the way to go despite survey from ministry of transport showing that cutting urban speed limit to 20mph caused no significant change in casualty rates.
This 20mph limit might well swell the confers at Cardiff Bay whilst the majority of drivers in Wales could end up with a criminal record and fines because they feel quite competent driving at the current UK urban limit of 30.
I'm willing to bet that the majority of drivers in Wales do not end up with a criminal record .
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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This 20mph limit might well swell the confers at Cardiff bay
I don’t understand how the speed limit could affect the size of trees in Cardiff
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
Speed limiters or some sort of tech to identify youve broken the speed limit is inevitable.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I'm totally against spend limiters, affectionately known as the other half in my case, and she does work like a SatNav, as she is always phoning me up to see where I am.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content...cars-from-2022
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
The thing is with some people today they have to be told to slow down, the same as they have to be told to pick their litter up.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
We are into safety issues should this happen. Over the years I've had to accelerate to get out of dangerous situations, particularly on motorways, and as a result exceeded the speed limit. Lord knows what might have happened if a speed limiter had kicked in at such times.
I've heard this counter argument so many times and it's nonsense. There were 1560 road fatalities recorded in 2021. You're still going to see a huge reduction by implementing this law. Besides, as a drive you should anticipate these problems before they occur that lead to hitting the accelerator.
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
Like I said, I can see the benefit in cars being limited to say 80mph, but what on earth do we gain from the above?
You know the chances of a pedestrian dying from being hit by a car reduces dramatically when going 30 compared to 40 and 20 compared to 30 and so on? That's what we gain from it.
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Originally Posted by
DryCleaning
So the use of GPS tracking isnt an issue? Of course it is.
There's no tracking or privacy concerns wrt speed limiters. Do you own a mobile phone? PC? Take your concerns elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
~Maybe so?
But situations vary both with road conditions and vehicles. For example a car can be limited to 70mph on a motorway, but what about a car towing a caravan. The limiter is on the car set at 70, whereas the speed limit if towing is 60mph
Err, okay. So let's ditch this silly idea because it won't work for <1% of the driving population.
There's some classic resistance to change going on here, peeps.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Lither_1927
What if you have an emergency like driving a heart attack victim to hospital in the middle of the night?
Or you're on an empty motorway at midnight?
If you're driving a heart attack victim to hospital I'd like to know why you didn't phone an ambulance?
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
If you're driving a heart attack victim to hospital I'd like to know why you didn't phone an ambulance?
what if a volcano erupts and the pyroclastic flow is traveling at 72 mph?
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
what if a volcano erupts and the pyroclastic flow is traveling at 72 mph?
It gets a ticket.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
If you're driving a heart attack victim to hospital I'd like to know why you didn't phone an ambulance?
If it was someone you held any affection for , you wouldn't want to wait for an ambulance to turn up.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
If it was someone you held any affection for, you wouldn't want to wait 3 hours for an ambulance to turn up.
That's true.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
stevo
There's some classic resistance to change going on here, peeps.
They are building new apartment blocks without any parking bays. The cost of fuel is going through the roof, and fossil fuels are rapidly being removed from the energy supply mix. 20mph speed limits in cities, and lower speeds on motorways. Where you see resistance to change, I see the nudge units preparing the world for a future without private car ownership.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
If you're driving a heart attack victim to hospital I'd like to know why you didn't phone an ambulance?
Perhaps here’s why
https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...an-6849193.amp
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
If it was someone you held any affection for , you wouldn't want to wait for an ambulance to turn up.
Heart attacks are a priority for ambulance crews. Not only should it turn up quickly, but A&E would have more chance of being prepared for the patient. If you just turned up at A&E with someone suffering a heart attack they won't be seen as quickly.
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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BLUETIT
That's not a heart attack
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
I just tweeted some clown who said 20 mph was a good thing because it reduced the risk of accidents - I said fair enough, let's reduce the max speed to 5 mph then :wave:
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That's not a heart attack
Seek and thee will find
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
This 20mph limit might well swell the confers at Cardiff bay
I don’t understand how the speed limit could affect the size of trees in Cardiff
It's a money tree
Re: Speed limit to be lowered to 20mph in Wales
You won't save fuel as driving at 20mph you need to be in a lower gear,hence more pollution as you will be using more fuel.