Did'nt Kevin Ratcliffe have a pay as you play deal with Cardiff back in the 92-93 season?
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No, we do not want a huge centre forward that would encourage us to lump balls forward. A Chopra style forward would be good.
There’s more to his game than just lumping it forward
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XF6ku78t3JU
99% of the time it only exists in the imagination of football message board people.
what footballer would agree to potentially no pay if they had offers elsewhere?
I can remember Andy Carroll himself , at Newcastle had a contract that was publicly described as "pay as you play" , but it was still 20k a week basic pay, but with massive appearance bonuses (35k If a sub and 70k if starting).
If Carroll arrives hoofball will probably return. Not for me.
Can't believe some are saying no to Andy Carroll, a former £35m footballer with England goals to his name, who played well for Reading and West Brom last season. Mental. If he comes to us on wages similar to what he was on at Reading, ie considerably less than what Max Watters and Mark Harris are paid, it is an absolute no-brainer, as he is better than those pair will ever be put together.
Yes he's been injury-prone, no he's not getting any younger, but bloody hell, beggars really can't be choosers.
I'd have no problem with him. He'd only need to play 15mins a game for us. He doesn't need to start. With 5 subs it's a different issue these days too. Just bringing him on would scare the defence which we're not going to do at the moment. It'd be good for the squad and the younger players too.
He hasn't played more than 19 league games in a season for the last SIX years and in that time only scored 16 league goals. Cant understand why anyone would want to sign that, particularly as we are now trying to play a type of football that just wouldn't suit him.
We've had a Reading fan in this thread saying, and I quote, that Carroll was terrific for them, got stuck in, was hard working, with a great attitude, proved he was fit enough to play and had no injuries whilst with them. Are we sure he wouldn't fit our style of play? It certainly seems like he'd work harder than Watters did on Saturday, and there's no doubting his technical ability is there?
Carroll doesn't have much technical ability - he's more of a battering ram and his style of play probably explains why he is injured so much. He must be better than Watters who, let's face it looks soft, is bullied by opposing defenders and looks out of his depth. Even Harris, when he came on, posed more of a threat by occupying the opposition's defenders and that says something as I'm not a fan of his either. If Carroll is the best we can get then so be it but that's a potential signing that doesn't excite me in the least.
All this Watters ‘bashing’ is ridiculous. He is a young player with limited Championship experience so far, who is a totally different type of player to people like Keiffer Moore or Andy Carroll. He is mobile and can finish and has potential. He also worked extremely hard on Saturday, so I am not sure what game you were watching. Due to our shortage of forwards at the moment he is being asked to play a different role which he is not totally suited to but with another player up front along side him would flourish in my opinion. How you can say Andy Carroll was terrific last season for Reading is beyond me - they nearly got relegated, he only played 8 times and scored twice.
Yes please if on reasonable wages.
Undoubtedly we are looking to play more but we shouldn't get carried away we aren't exactly peak Barca or Swansea. I'm sure Andy Carroll is more than capable of playing any system we will adopt.
Not relevant. He was only with us a short time and scored a crucial winner against Swansea, scored another elsewhere, had two worldies disallowed, held the ball up really well, defended well and worked his arse off. I would gladly take him back and we didn’t play long ball with him in the side. He was a cut above.