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And if the answer to that question is that the expectations are different then we are probably more fecked than we think 🙄

Totally agree and to an extent that was what he said in his press conference with bulut last year that he had disengaged so basically don't blame him for the shitshow of the last couple of years and...

Do you think dalman etc al have plan A - history seems to indicate that is highly unlikely

😂😂 He's not the messiah he is a very naughty academy product 👍

Personally I think that's ridiculous - gives no confidence or stability and we will find ourselves exactly where we are now, again next year - if the board lack confidence get rid of bulut and...

I know the subject of bulut has been down to death and not wanting another polarising discussion but linking this from the BBC site as I had not recognised that this is the first season in 5 that our...

How does it work is it a one off payment or is it like say shirt sponsorship and they pay a certain amount for a certain period of time - if it is the latter do they have a threshold as to what is...

They should have had holiday pay then or not paid at all - I would have a bollocking and/or worse if I didn't do anything a few weeks prior to me going on leave

9/1 on some sites coming in from 16/1 - I know that could be someone putting a tenner on but still .....

Maybe the silly has started already

Aw come on we all know there is a really strong and robust succession plan in place for uncle Vinnies departure same as we have prepared for all our managerial departures 👍

It's either going to be bulut or they will scrabble around looking for anyone willing to take the gig - history says they have no plans let alone a plan b

Bulut to hull rumours commence 👍

Anybody know if the club communicate (don't all laugh at once) as to why people don't renew?

Maybe something the fans forum can pick up ??

I get loads of emails re tickets even though I'm a...

Exactly this - my son particularly this season, as he has seen more than me, has been really down about the team and it's performance but when I asked him if he wanted to renew his response was an...

Oh don't worry I still get caught up in the corporate bullshit but it is a necessary evil to keep the organisation legal decent and honest

I have a policy each day where I can, I do the worst...

I've worked in health or social care for 35 years but been working for 44 years now as had a complete career change mid twenties - I've been fortunate as I can see the difference my day makes to...

Fair cop that 👍

I hate that word with a passion - is a real trigger word for me and I don't have many but that is top of the list

Stating the obvious but undertaking is dangerous regardless of the frustration of middle lane hoggers which I absolute share with you but undertaking is not the answer is my opinion 👍

Both mine done 👍

Is it about somehow getting them to play in a different league - maybe European tournaments will help now

I'm immobilised at the moment so little to do apart from watch TV read etc but yesterday...

That was my point as well - length of service doesn't equate to competence and it is clear they don't learn their lessons and don't have a plan - Dalman said as much when bulut was appointed and that...

True - my mistake 👍

This every day - until we have someone in decision making positions that understands football or the current lot learn lessons (and they don't show any evidence of that) then we will continue to...

Are we still paying any managers off cos at one point we must have had a few on the payroll the way we went through them ?