At risk of being called a drama queen.....

[Jimmy Jimmy]

If he wants to wear a blue shirt, restore the badge, restore the blue kit and not walk away - as well as try and sort out the mess he created - then fair play to him - let him have a go at doing it because as sure as anything - there is no one else that will

[Jimmy the Jock]

ILK

What ILK are you then ?

I just go and watch a game of football and support the team (which has been somewhat difficult over the last season or 2)

Enjoy your season in the sun ,Rangers will be back as you well know.

[TH63]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

It's like Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower all over again.

[TruBlue]

Just so we know - all you people who wanted Tan to be booed or hassled or ignored.....what is your plan to get the club out of this downward spiral?

Don't want to hear about history or who did what or should have done what. - Tell us how YOU think the club can be turned around (I assume without Tan as you despise the bloke) and what you and your messageboard cronies are going to do to put that plan into action?

Tan to sell the club on and take his gambling losses with him. That won't happen, so the club is either paralysed from the eyebrows down for the next 50 years or more or it pops its clogs. My own belief is that the club are sleepwalking to extinction, and fans are fawning over the bloke that, as Ali once said, "made it all possible".

Steve summed it up perfectly, not his feelings, but happy for others to do as they please. That's hardly being bought and sold easily.

[Colon Man]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

It's at times like this that I wish my father had worn a condom.

[TruBlue]

I worry for you TH63

you are looking over that " forever bitter cliff edge " that TLG, Jirga etc etc jumped off

Says the poster who was bigging up the rebrand originally.

[purple haze2]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

The other point of Tan dictating and controlling game plans and tactics, we all know is complete exaggeration and total b0ll0cks

[Loya Jirga]

I worry for you TH63

you are looking over that " forever bitter cliff edge " that TLG, Jirga etc etc jumped off

Are you pro Tan today Matt? I never quite know and, I suspect, neither do you.

One thing you can't accuse me of is changing my opinion because of a new signing or football result. In fact, I changed my mind once - the very minute the rebrand became official and fans were being played against each other. There are many here who change their minds on a daily basis. Not you, of course, you have no opinion either way.

[Baloo]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

I think your assertions that a softly-softly, diplomacy-based, long-term approach was the only way to get Tan to reverse the rebrand was found to be misguided. In the end, it came about rapidly as soon as the club realised there was a very real prospect of dwindling attendances and future season ticket sales - in hindsight perhaps we should have all listened more to the boycotters.

[purple haze2]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Yes, I was wrong and very surprised

[Baloo]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Dear God.

Fair dos.

[purple haze2]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Dear God.

So he said to a few of his most long term players, that players need to have more confidence to produce more shots on goal and that he addressed the team to confirm his commitment to the club.

How incredible would that feel ?

[alfie sherwood]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Any unity needs to take place between City supporters and it shouldn't be extended to include the fruit loop who has caused such division and problems.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Just so we know - all you people who wanted Tan to be booed or hassled or ignored.....what is your plan to get the club out of this downward spiral?

Don't want to hear about history or who did what or should have done what. - Tell us how YOU think the club can be turned around (I assume without Tan as you despise the bloke) and what you and your messageboard cronies are going to do to put that plan into action?

Tan to sell the club on and take his gambling losses with him. That won't happen, so the club is either paralysed from the eyebrows down for the next 50 years or more or it pops its clogs. My own belief is that the club are sleepwalking to extinction, and fans are fawning over the bloke that, as Ali once said, "made it all possible".

If someone is brave enough to spend 170m quid, they should be brave enough to face the consequences when it goes as badly wrong as it has. And yes, Sid, it is a sequence of monumental cock ups from Tan that has led to the mess. Was the season of getting your arse handed back by Sunderland, Swansea and Southampton worth the risk?

No probably not.....

[Baloo]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Dear God.

So he said to a few of his most long term players, that players need to have more confidence to produce more shots on goal and that he addressed the team to confirm his commitment to the club.

What a fecking tyrant

I actually think the rebrand saga showed it's good to have fans with healthy doses of cynicism - the whole episode may have been much shorter if we'd have firmly united in it from the outset.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Dear God.

So he said to a few of his most long term players, that players need to have more confidence to produce more shots on goal and that he addressed the team to confirm his commitment to the club.

What a fecking tyrant

If you want to misread into those comments that much, then it sounds like you think of yourself as a bit of drama queen.

He is merely trying to stem the possible exodus of customers.

[TruBlue]

I worry for you TH63

you are looking over that " forever bitter cliff edge " that TLG, Jirga etc etc jumped off

Are you pro Tan today Matt? I never quite know and, I suspect, neither do you.

Says the poster who was bigging up the rebrand originally.

I have plenty of opinions, just don't feel the need to try to bully other people with my own. The rebrand was shocking, but some people don't feel as badly about it as others, that's life, certain others lapped it up initially, remember them?

[TruBlue]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Dear God.

So he said to a few of his most long term players, that players need to have more confidence to produce more shots on goal and that he addressed the team to confirm his commitment to the club.

What a fecking tyrant

If you want to misread into those comments that much, then it sounds like you think of yourself as a bit of drama queen.

Why else would you use that term as part of the thread title

.

You'll be pointing out the fact night follows day next.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ca rdiff-city-owner-vincent-tan-8741684

"Prior to kick-off, Tan mixed with supporters, signing autographs, posing for selfies and mixing warmly with those who had perhaps once been against him. There was even an ayatollah or two thrown in for good measure."

"Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and captain David Marshall all engaged in deep conversation with the owner, listening intently as he told them of his desire for a shoot-on-sight policy from the team."

"Then, it was time to address the rest of the squad as Tan joined manager Russell Salde and headed for the dressing room.

Standing alongside the boss, he talked to the team, telling them of his commitment to the football club and hopes for the future."

Dear God.

So he said to a few of his most long term players, that players need to have more confidence to produce more shots on goal and that he addressed the team to confirm his commitment to the club.

What a fecking tyrant

If you want to misread into those comments that much, then it sounds like you think of yourself as a bit of drama queen.

Why else would you use that term as part of the thread title

.

That was aimed at the Colonel from the "walking round the pitch" thread

Night follows day next.

[TruBlue]

Just so we know - all you people who wanted Tan to be booed or hassled or ignored.....what is your plan to get the club out of this downward spiral?

Don't want to hear about history or who did what or should have done what. - Tell us how YOU think the club can be turned around (I assume without Tan as you despise the bloke) and what you and your messageboard cronies are going to do to put that plan into action?

Tan to sell the club on and take his gambling losses with him. That won't happen, so the club is either paralysed from the eyebrows down for the next 50 years or more or it pops its clogs. My own belief is that the club are sleepwalking to extinction, and fans are fawning over the bloke that, as Ali once said, "made it all possible".

If someone is brave enough to spend 170m quid, they should be brave enough to face the consequences when it goes as badly wrong as it has. And yes, Sid, it is a sequence of monumental cock ups from Tan that has led to the mess. Was the season of getting your arse handed back by Sunderland, Swansea and Southampton worth the risk?

I find it hard to stomach this increasingly new found Tan love TBH.

Come on Jimmy, we can all act Billy Big Bollox like you and call everyone else a sellout, whilst you still attend home, away, friendlies and youth matches yourself, but be honest with yourself, calling others a scab as you cross the picket line yourself doesn't make you any less of a scab. It just allows you to feel better about yourself.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Just so we know - all you people who wanted Tan to be booed or hassled or ignored.....what is your plan to get the club out of this downward spiral?

Don't want to hear about history or who did what or should have done what. - Tell us how YOU think the club can be turned around (I assume without Tan as you despise the bloke) and what you and your messageboard cronies are going to do to put that plan into action?

Tan to sell the club on and take his gambling losses with him. That won't happen, so the club is either paralysed from the eyebrows down for the next 50 years or more or it pops its clogs. My own belief is that the club are sleepwalking to extinction, and fans are fawning over the bloke that, as Ali once said, "made it all possible".

If someone is brave enough to spend 170m quid, they should be brave enough to face the consequences when it goes as badly wrong as it has. And yes, Sid, it is a sequence of monumental cock ups from Tan that has led to the mess. Was the season of getting your arse handed back by Sunderland, Swansea and Southampton worth the risk?

I find it hard to stomach this increasingly new found Tan love TBH.

What has he done to deserve it? other than run up debt, show contempt to fans (then suddenly stop the contempt .. oh ..OK!).

WOW . Opened a wound did we .....

[TruBlue]

Just so we know - all you people who wanted Tan to be booed or hassled or ignored.....what is your plan to get the club out of this downward spiral?

Don't want to hear about history or who did what or should have done what. - Tell us how YOU think the club can be turned around (I assume without Tan as you despise the bloke) and what you and your messageboard cronies are going to do to put that plan into action?

Tan to sell the club on and take his gambling losses with him. That won't happen, so the club is either paralysed from the eyebrows down for the next 50 years or more or it pops its clogs. My own belief is that the club are sleepwalking to extinction, and fans are fawning over the bloke that, as Ali once said, "made it all possible".

If someone is brave enough to spend 170m quid, they should be brave enough to face the consequences when it goes as badly wrong as it has. And yes, Sid, it is a sequence of monumental cock ups from Tan that has led to the mess. Was the season of getting your arse handed back by Sunderland, Swansea and Southampton worth the risk?

I find it hard to stomach this increasingly new found Tan love TBH.

What has he done to deserve it? other than run up debt, show contempt to fans (then suddenly stop the contempt .. oh ..OK!).

He 'simply' put back the shirt that he should never have meddled with in the first place.

We?

[Jimmy the Jock]

Just so we know - all you people who wanted Tan to be booed or hassled or ignored.....what is your plan to get the club out of this downward spiral?

Don't want to hear about history or who did what or should have done what. - Tell us how YOU think the club can be turned around (I assume without Tan as you despise the bloke) and what you and your messageboard cronies are going to do to put that plan into action?

Tan to sell the club on and take his gambling losses with him. That won't happen, so the club is either paralysed from the eyebrows down for the next 50 years or more or it pops its clogs. My own belief is that the club are sleepwalking to extinction, and fans are fawning over the bloke that, as Ali once said, "made it all possible".

If someone is brave enough to spend 170m quid, they should be brave enough to face the consequences when it goes as badly wrong as it has. And yes, Sid, it is a sequence of monumental cock ups from Tan that has led to the mess. Was the season of getting your arse handed back by Sunderland, Swansea and Southampton worth the risk?

I find it hard to stomach this increasingly new found Tan love TBH.

What has he done to deserve it? other than run up debt, show contempt to fans (then suddenly stop the contempt .. oh ..OK!).

He 'simply' put back the shirt that he should never have meddled with in the first place.

Beermat badge needs restoring sharpish too please.

I forget myself sometimes.

[TruBlue]

We?

Royal terminology...

As for opening a "wound", for suggesting I don't have abusive opinions, it is about the nicest insult I've ever had.

[Jimmy the Jock]

We?

Royal terminology...

I forget myself sometimes.

I didnt realise we knew each other, when did you last see me taking a drink?