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The speakers are too soft. Todays speaker should have said to Cameron after thr 4th or 5th attempt "answer yes or no you **** or i'll kick your cu*t in" That would make it more interesting.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Wed, 28 October 2015 21:43
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron- refuses-to-say-whether-his-tax-credit-policy-will-still-make -people-poorer-despite-a6711901.html
It could also be said that Cameron had 6 opportunities to give his political message and Corbyn didn't try to challenge.
PS. Indy's new website is horrible
PPS. It's bonkers that Cameron appears more prime ministerial for many despite his actions this week (claiming to have a mandate to act against what he said in the run-up to the election, challenging the lords, a body he's already tried to make bigger and more Tory than every before, and finally threatening to cut elsewhere all because of a move that did not have to be made and did not have to made so quickly was called into question).
Funny how he gave a straight answer before the elections, a resounding no there would not be any cuts to working tax credits.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron- refuses-to-say-whether-his-tax-credit-policy-will-still-make -people-poorer-despite-a6711901.html
The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.
Using it to pay their rent and for leisure. That's not what working tax credit is for. It's to supplement your income, not outright pay your bills. It's not pocket money awarded to you for working, it's to help you live.
It is not a wage. It is a benefit.
Working tax credit needs to be abolished, with wages being increased.
David, is that you ? ? ??
Do you know that might be a really radical idea. I'm working class as was my father and my kids are. That was what they did what I did and what my kids are doing. None of us had tax credits, but we actually lived within our means.
One of the big problems in recent years has been tiny to no wage increases for those at the bottom of the ladder, while the cost of living keeps increasing. At the other end of the ladder, people on high wages seem to keep enjoying lavish pay rises at the expense of those at the bottom. Do you think this is right?
Yes make work pay as labour used to say and make the employer pay for it not our taxes, but do it in a way that won't see £1800 lost by families.
There is also a demographic that earns just a bit more than the minimum wage whose wages would be unlikely to rise in accordance with increases to the living wage. Their loss of tax credits would not be negated by some rises in the living wage.The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.
Tory PM trait, reminiscent of Paxman's question to Maggie "Was the Belgrano sailing away from the exclusion zone?"
Tax Credits allow for a situation where you can get some of your own tax back in the form of a benefit. Whilst it has its faults its certainly better than an individual solely relying on the benefits system, and it costs less to the tax payer.
Posters refuse to put political threads in the Politics Forum-trainee Cameron's?
So this tory party is the party for "hard working" families, apparently ?
If you are a single parent with 1 child earning just under £10k per year you would be £1000 a year worse off.
If you were a working couple with 2 kids & a combined income of £26k you would be £850 worse off.
But if you were a working couple with no kids & a combined income of nearly £60k you would be £350 better off.
Obviously a couple earning nearly £60k must be much more hard working & deserving than a couple who can only be bothered to work hard enough to earn £26k.
Shame on you couples who can only be bothered to earn £26k.
"stealing from the rich is a crime, stealing from the poor is capitalism"
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But wouldn't it be better if you didn't pay the tax in the first place rather than have all the admin and other costs of giving it back to you. That is what the new living wage and the rise in tax thresholds is trying to balance.
You are right it is a benefit, but not for the workers.
The country loses a hell of a lot more money paying housing benefit, than tax credits to an individual.
That is exactly what I'm doing, it seems painfully obvious that that is what responsible adults should do.The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.
What if you start a family and then lose your job, or become ill.The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.Using it to pay their rent and for leisure. That's not what working tax credit is for. It's to supplement your income, not outright pay your bills. It's not pocket money awarded to you for working, it's to help you live.
Of course, in factoring in when we start a family, I have included the costs of critical illness and redundancy insurance.The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.Using it to pay their rent and for leisure. That's not what working tax credit is for. It's to supplement your income, not outright pay your bills. It's not pocket money awarded to you for working, it's to help you live.It is not a wage. It is a benefit.
There are many angles where an individual can support his children but many years down the line may struggle.The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.Using it to pay their rent and for leisure. That's not what working tax credit is for. It's to supplement your income, not outright pay your bills. It's not pocket money awarded to you for working, it's to help you live.It is not a wage. It is a benefit.Working tax credit needs to be abolished, with wages being increased.
I would agree if it was a level playing field, but the game seems to be rigged in favour of the better off.The problem with tax credits is most people on them treat it as a wage.Using it to pay their rent and for leisure. That's not what working tax credit is for. It's to supplement your income, not outright pay your bills. It's not pocket money awarded to you for working, it's to help you live.
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