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    SNP and Sunday trading

    Nationalism falls down completely when it is used to keep others down, and in proudly giving their reason for voting against Sunday trading the SNP will have lost a lot of the favour Nicola Sturgeon and Mhari Black et al have managed to drum up since the election.

    Previously, Cameron has attacked the SNP regarding them preventing the UK changing its stance to reflect Scotland regarding fox hunting but seeing as Scotland were reviewing their stance and Cameron wished to make the UK worse than Scotland it was a tepid argument. On this occasion, especially when pointing to the majority of English and Welsh voting in favour, he is much closer to the mark than the SNP.

    If Cameron uses this to argue that a strong Scottish Conservatives are the true opposition to the SNP then I am reminded of a pundit who suggested that Sturgeon did so well at the pre-election debates because others simply didn't know enough about Scottish politics to ask her tough questions - perhaps if the Tories didn't vote with the SNP so often.

    .....I'd probably vote against extending Sunday trading.

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    The SNP manage to avoid thorough scrutiny both in and outside of Scotland.

    If you dare question them then you're anti-Scottish and a part of "Project Fear."

    I suspect most Scots are now relieved that they voted against independence 18 months ago as they'd be facing massive cuts and tax rises on March 24th - the day the SNP suggested as "Independence Day" if they'd won the referendum.

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    The SNP manage to avoid thorough scrutiny both in and outside of Scotland.

    If you dare question them then you're anti-Scottish and a part of "Project Fear."

    I suspect most Scots are now relieved that they voted against independence 18 months ago as they'd be facing massive cuts and tax rises on March 24th - the day the SNP suggested as "Independence Day" if they'd won the referendum.
    Are they not still facing massive cuts? Cuts made worse by not giving the Tories a look in; a party now seeking to make democracy work for them more than any other and by extension provide more for areas where they could win/could lose.

    Apart from not criticising the SNP's position, this article reflects why Sunday should be kept, as much as possible, a special day and not fall to the rising demand for unpalatable traditions like "black Friday" or "Boxing day sales": http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...en-day-working

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    The SNP manage to avoid thorough scrutiny both in and outside of Scotland.

    If you dare question them then you're anti-Scottish and a part of "Project Fear."

    I suspect most Scots are now relieved that they voted against independence 18 months ago as they'd be facing massive cuts and tax rises on March 24th - the day the SNP suggested as "Independence Day" if they'd won the referendum.
    You have no idea how the economy of an independent Scotland will evolve. In fact, all the latest GERS figures achieve is to illustrate the continued failure of the union and Westminster's rule over Scotland.

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilkers View Post
    You have no idea how the economy of an independent Scotland will evolve. In fact, all the latest GERS figures achieve is to illustrate the continued failure of the union and Westminster's rule over Scotland.
    It may well evolve over time but at the current time an Independent Scotland would face tremendous hardship.

    The union isn't failing Scotland, it benefits from it's membership - as it does from the EU.

    Small-minded nationalism will not benefit the majority of Scots.

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    It may well evolve over time but at the current time an Independent Scotland would face tremendous hardship.

    The union isn't failing Scotland, it benefits from it's membership - as it does from the EU.

    Small-minded nationalism will not benefit the majority of Scots.
    Would you consider yourself a UK/British nationalist, or are you an internationalist?

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by blue sky View Post
    Would you consider yourself a UK/British nationalist, or are you an internationalist?
    The pretentious answer would be a citizen of the world, thus avoiding the use of the "N" word!!

    Nationalism should be left for the sporting field where I'm happy to be Welsh/British/European.

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    The pretentious answer would be a citizen of the world, thus avoiding the use of the "N" word!!

    Nationalism should be left for the sporting field where I'm happy to be Welsh/British/European.
    So you didn't agree with East Timor becoming independent? Or Croatia? Or Estonia?

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by blue sky View Post
    So you didn't agree with East Timor becoming independent? Or Croatia? Or Estonia?
    If the peoples of these and other countries want their independence then so be it.

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    Re: SNP and Sunday trading

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    It may well evolve over time but at the current time an Independent Scotland would face tremendous hardship.

    The union isn't failing Scotland, it benefits from it's membership - as it does from the EU.

    Small-minded nationalism will not benefit the majority of Scots.
    Over the last thirty years The union has been a disaster for Scotland, as an independent country they could have accumulated a sovereign wealth fund similar to Norway's with the hundreds of billions earned on the direct taxation of it's oil and gas reserves, instead it was handed to the British government to squander.

    Neither Scotland or GB have anything to show for what should have been financial bonanza, instead the Scots are left spending billions of their current raised taxation funding the interest payments on a vast sovereign debt pile accumulated courtesy of the incompetence of the uk's government in London.
    Last edited by Pilkers; 13-03-16 at 14:54.

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