Dirty Ched, The Verdict.

[neilw65]

All he's done is state facts though. Even if Ched is found not guilty nothing he's said is wrong at this point in time.

What area does your friend work in? Lawyer?

Actually I mis-read Goslows post, you are correct he stating facts so apologies to Goslow.

He was a senior police office, including firearms, and led the police force for rape and Sexual Offence Investigation/Prevention, Child Protection, Domestic Violence, Sex Offender risk reduction etc.

He now works on cases such as the Ched Evans case, carrying out investigations into potential miscarriages of justice on behalf of defence teams. Apparently, usual defence investigations only interview the "obvious" witnesses and often don't dig deeper, which results in key evidence not being uncovered. This is often because of the costs involved in carrying out such investigations.

[Rjk]

Lets take it to a different example. If I forced you onto a roller coaster that you really, really didnt want to get on, but then enjoy it while you're on it, does that make it ok to force you onto it?

I once forced my son onto a rollercoaster he really didn't want to go on. Should I hand myself in to the authorities now?

[Charlie]

I once forced my son onto a rollercoaster he really didn't want to go on. Should I hand myself in to the authorities now?

So have I,the little feker threw up all over me.
Lesson learnt...

[Richyrich]

No matter what the armchair lawyers, ccmb experts and fanbois say Evans was found guilty of rape by a jury who had heard all the evidence,not just cherry picked snippets from the rapists website and apologists.
I wonder how much sympathy John terry or joey barton would get?

Are you saying we shouldn't question the court system?

If so, if everyone thought like you, there would be a lot of innocent people still inside.

[City123]

A club would take him if they thought he was good enough to play

Only reason he isn't playing now is the public outcry there was when clubs wanted him

[Bobby_The_Bhoy]

He's a rapist


No probably no might be

HE IS

and I've not watch THE VIDEO or been brainwashed by bullshit talk


12 members of the jury found him guilty

He lost his first Appeal

And all of a sudden new evidence has appeared 4 years later


He won't get off IMHO


Guilty as charged.

[Croesy Blue]

Wow I never expected that. How long until the retrial? I can't put up with another 12 months of this

Wonder if he'll get a club for next season now? He'll be due a lot of money in lost earnings.

[Bobby_The_Bhoy]

Unlucky Ched me ol' china.

[blue matt]

great news for him

I spent ages looking at the case last year and often posted on threads about him, i remember a few on here were just adamant that he was a rapist and that was that

The case was dodgy right from the start

Yes Ched is a wrong un, he actions were wrong, but being a wrong un is not being a rapist

[blue matt]

He's a rapist


No probably no might be

HE IS

and I've not watch THE VIDEO or been brainwashed by bullshit talk


12 members of the jury found him guilty

He lost his first Appeal

And all of a sudden new evidence has appeared 4 years later


He won't get off IMHO


Guilty as charged.

[tigerbaybluebird]

I was wrong but reserve judgement untill after his retrial

Untill then he's innocent until proven guilty


Bye



Next

[blue matt]

I was wrong but reserve judgement untill after his retrial

Untill then he's innocent until proven guilty


Bye



Next

you felt you could condemn him without doing any research on the matter

a good job people are slightly more open minded eh

[Croesy Blue]

great news for him

I spent ages looking at the case last year and often posted on threads about him, i remember a few on here were just adamant that he was a rapist and that was that

The case was dodgy right from the start

Yes Ched is a wrong un, he actions were wrong, but being a wrong un is not being a rapist

Good summary tbf

[BobbyBlue]

Ched is innocent ! He's not a rapist

[tigerbaybluebird]

you felt you could condemn him without doing any research on the matter

a good job people are slightly more open minded eh

He's still a **** though ain't he

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

He's still a **** though ain't he

But not a rapist it seems.

[blue matt]

He's still a **** though ain't he

agree'ed. he has no ( or little ) Morals, yet that doesnt make him a rapist

[lardy]

agree'ed. he has no ( or little ) Morals, yet that doesnt make him a rapist

Just searched ccmb and you've used this about half a dozen times. Is this really how you think it is spelled?

[xsnaggle]

This looks like a bit of 'Vetelism' to me, as in "I'm shouting at you so no one looks at what I did (said)"

[blue matt]

Just searched ccmb and you've used this about half a dozen times. Is this really how you think it is spelled?

So you have picked me up on the spelling of agreed ( which stems from a old joke ) , but well done anyway

yet you feel Ched " hasn't yet been found innocent "

Anyway, I'll make my point for the last time. He hasn't yet been found innocent; from what the appeal court said, there will be a retrial (although if what others have said is true then there may not be. I don't know).

[superian]

Here's the appeal court transcript of the original trial:

https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-...-chedwyn-evans

That's not a transcript.

It's a summary of the reasons for the Court of Appeal refusing his first appeal. Their own version is available elsewhere on crimeline.info, I think.

I'd love to see a transcript of the original trial, but for some reason - probably because of the amount of incriminating evidence from his own mouth - the Ched Evans website has never published the one his legal team doubtless have.

[superian]

BUT

she cannot remember any of it happening, so she cannot remember consenting or not

Quite - she was so drunk, she didn't wake up when she pissed herself later that night. Evans should have known that she was extremely drunk: the only contact he'd had with her outside the room was when he stepped over her, literally falling down drunk, earlier.

It also gives the lie to the idea that she made a complaint to make money. No, she didn't know where her handbag was and thought it had been stolen. In fact, she'd left it in the kebab shop around 3am. Just how drunk does a woman have to be to not know where her handbag is?

Yes Ched is a wrong un, but how many other blokes would have been tempted to " have a go " with her if she was encouraging it ? ? ?

Where's the evidence that she was encouraging it?

He says she was "repeatedly" "calling out" "**** me harder", but MacDonald doesn't say he heard that before he left the room. Evans' brother and the mate outside trying to film it all didn't give evidence that they could hear that (and they could be heard giggling from inside the room, so would clearly be able to hear someone "calling out" inside it). The night porter who could hear that sex was happening in the room couldn't hear that.

So of the four people in a position to hear all this claimed encouragement, none could. Hmm...

[My Name is Dave.]

SuperIan,
6 posts all about Ched in two different threads.
You don't work for the CPS do you?

[xsnaggle]

Of maybe the north Wales Police???

[BLUETIT]

SuperIan,
6 posts all about Ched in two different threads.
You don't work for the CPS do you?

Of maybe the north Wales Police???

Or the girls family member !?

Only just registered as well (iffy smiley)