Whittingham

[rich munn]

I know this will be controversial because there are many Whitts lovers. I like him too, and he deserves great credit for what he has done for us in the past (Ever more distant past)

He has to go.

His presence (not his fault) is why we haven't had a midfield in the last 3 years.

Had he not been available, because he is never injured, we would have become a better team.

Now he's too slow to play wide. Until a rule to allow a player to come on to play set-pieces is implemented, he has no position in any top-level Championship team. And his set-pieces have become fairly hopeless.

Give him 20 yards of space and time to think, and he has a nice left foot. That's not enough. It's like playing with 10 men.

Sorry, he's been a great servant of the club and is a good footballer, but he is nowhere near what we need now, and he confuses managers.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

u best be joking dog

[Dénia Bluebird]

100% agree, in fact if that decision was taken 2 years ago we may have been back in PL by now?

[BLUETIT]

Should be the FIRST name on the teamsheet and the side built around him. !

The number of times he looked up yesterday and had no runners creating space was criminal.

He needs quality up front like a Bellers, Chopra, Vardy, someone of that ILK , making runs and creating space.

Best player at the club by a country mile.

[JKB]

He's the Pirlo of the Championship. Just as Malone is the prince of leftbacks and Revell was Slade's best signing.

[jimmytaff]

He's the Pirlo of the Championship. Just as Malone is the prince of leftbacks and Revell was Slade's best signing.

He was pirloesque against Bolton in the second half against ten men. Given time and space there is no doubting his quality but he is too often anonymous these days - like he was on Saturday. Think he'd still make a good squad player for next season though

[darran1927]

He was pirloesque against Bolton in the second half against ten men. Given time and space there is no doubting his quality but he is too often anonymous these days - like he was on Saturday. Think he'd still make a good squad player for next season though

the rest of the players around him aren't good enough , he always looks for a pass rather than just hoofing it and hoping for the best , ifthere's nothing on he will pass it around the back to keep possession but he gets booed by fans for doing this

[splott parker]

The number of times that he made space for himself yesterday, controlled the ball, looked up but had no bugger making a run. Some of his passing yesterday was, yet again, a joy to watch.

[rich munn]

Indeed it was.

One over his shoulder was lovely.

But we are not watching synchronised swimming. Where did any of his lovely passes get us?

This is the problem. He has no natural position any more, and has lost any spark.

[City123]

He needs players making runs off the ball, we don't have that at the moment

[llan bluebird]

Just kick it down the middle mun.....

Wait for the loose ball for our hard man to get onto.


Dungeon football mentality.

[Rjk]

Past his peak, but every time he's been dropped, he's worked his way back into the side with some good performances. Perhaps managers have been to reluctant to drop him, but used more sparingly I'm sure he can still offer a lot.

[KevinCarter]

Whittingham scored 6 (joint second) and assisted 7 (joint top)
Hasn't lost it yet

[Feedback]

yet another post that demonstrates some city fans are devoid of any sense

[rich munn]

On whose side are you? Your post doesn't disclose that!

And whichever side you are on, how about some argument in favour of it?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I think our entire midfield needs a rethink.

[ccfcwelshlad]

Whitts has never been blessed with pace, so he's hardly lost that has he's aged. What's different between now and when he was at his so-called 'peak', is the players he's playing with. As has been said above, he's got no willing runners and no-one to pick out a through ball with. He's probably been involved in more goals than any other player this season (either scoring or assisting) and can pick out passes that the rest of our midfield can't even see.

Joe Ralls is a decent player, but he is not Peter Whittingham. He will take at least 2, more often than not 3 touches before playing a pass.

It's the usual Cardiff fans being unable to appreciate someone not running around a lot, unfortunately.

[olderblue]

Whitts has never been blessed with pace, so he's hardly lost that has he's aged. What's different between now and when he was at his so-called 'peak', is the players he's playing with. As has been said above, he's got no willing runners and no-one to pick out a through ball with. He's probably been involved in more goals than any other player this season (either scoring or assisting) and can pick out passes that the rest of our midfield can't even see.

Joe Ralls is a decent player, but he is not Peter Whittingham. He will take at least 2, more often than not 3 touches before playing a pass.

It's the usual Cardiff fans being unable to appreciate someone not running around a lot, unfortunately.

I'd build a team around Whitts, two ball winners in midfield either side of him and two speedy wingers and Whitts would be in his element
Best footballer at the club currently by a country mile

[Feedback]

I'd build a team around Whitts, two ball winners in midfield either side of him and two speedy wingers and Whitts would be in his element
Best footballer at the club currently by a country mile

please take your common sense somewhere else

[Armitage Shanks]

Seen him tonight with some of team inxluding our russ outside mocha lounge in town

[NYCBlue]

I know this will be controversial because there are many Whitts lovers. I like him too, and he deserves great credit for what he has done for us in the past (Ever more distant past)

He has to go.

His presence (not his fault) is why we haven't had a midfield in the last 3 years.

Had he not been available, because he is never injured, we would have become a better team.

Now he's too slow to play wide. Until a rule to allow a player to come on to play set-pieces is implemented, he has no position in any top-level Championship team. And his set-pieces have become fairly hopeless.

Give him 20 yards of space and time to think, and he has a nice left foot. That's not enough. It's like playing with 10 men.

Sorry, he's been a great servant of the club and is a good footballer, but he is nowhere near what we need now, and he confuses managers.

Classic

[goslow]

[Blue in the Face]

PROS

Great vision
Top level set pieces, corners, penalties etc. Worth several points over a season
Never injured. Making his wages more worthwhile
Nice guy and model pro
Settled in the squad
Fans love him
Looks cool when he scores

CONS

You have to build the team around him because of limits to his game. Hence the lopsided 4-4-2 the past year
Slow
Not a good defender
Very inconsistent and can go missing in games often
Can't dribble past players
Conservative and flat movement in most games
Doesn't take games by the scruff of the neck when things aren't going our way
Old now so re-sale value diminishing

[surge]

He could be our Atletico Madrid Fernando Torres but fans are more interested in saying he's not the same player he was. 6 months til he's been here 10 years and you still can't see his changing value.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

PROS

Great vision
Top level set pieces, corners, penalties etc. Worth several points over a season
Never injured. Making his wages more worthwhile
Nice guy and model pro
Settled in the squad
Fans love him
Looks cool when he scores

CONS

You have to build the team around him because of limits to his game. Hence the lopsided 4-4-2 the past year
Slow
Not a good defender
Very inconsistent and can go missing in games often
Can't dribble past players
Conservative and flat movement in most games
Doesn't take games by the scruff of the neck when things aren't going our way
Old now so re-sale value diminishing

Agreed that his set pieces (not direct free kicks any more, sadly) are worth several points over a season.

However, how many points do you think he costs us due to the list of cons you accurately provide? I reckon it's as many as we gain from his set pieces.

At one point last season I suggested that the fact we were reliant on Whitts' delivery from set pieces actually causes us a problem when he doesn't play well. It's fine to score goals from set pieces but if the bloke who takes them is costing the team in open play and we don't look like scoring unless it's from a set piece, then is he worth his place in the side.