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    Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Don't you think its a bit condescending & patronising to judge those who voted out as racist in a blanket statement?, i think that many who voted out used this election (wrongly IMO) to kick politicians up the arse for ignoring their plight, seeing the majority getting prosperous, but themselves getting ignored, you keep kicking people and at some stage they will kick back and this was the occasion, Cardiff has been multi cultural since before i was in infants. multiculturalism isn't something new.
    I have referred to a 'racist element' here so it's not everyone. Far from it but it is still a significant factor in why some people voted out. I agree that people voted out because they are being left behind but that is more to do with how we are governed by Westminster and not Brussels. This Government chose austerity and it has hit poorer communities. Yet they have kicked out at the wrong people. Kick the Tories out. They are the ones responsible and not the EU.

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    Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    I have referred to a 'racist element' here so it's not everyone. Far from it but it is still a significant factor in why some people voted out. I agree that people voted out because they are being left behind but that is more to do with how we are governed by Westminster and not Brussels. This Government chose austerity and it has hit poorer communities. Yet they have kicked out at the wrong people. Kick the Tories out. They are the ones responsible and not the EU.
    I been up all night and didn't read it correctly, and yes i do agree with an element but also think a lot voted out for other reasons rightly or wrongly, my lad was concerned abut the out vote as it might affect his ability to travel around Europe as a musician.

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    Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    I have referred to a 'racist element' here so it's not everyone. Far from it but it is still a significant factor in why some people voted out. I agree that people voted out because they are being left behind but that is more to do with how we are governed by Westminster and not Brussels. This Government chose austerity and it has hit poorer communities. Yet they have kicked out at the wrong people. Kick the Tories out. They are the ones responsible and not the EU.
    The EU, that made massive austerity cuts. Forcibly so on Ireland Spain Italy Greece. They have gone full pelt on austerity. The UK just flirted with austerity, it didnt go anywhere near as far as was planned.

    Spain facing 45% Youth unemployment, Greece facing generations of recovery. Yeah the EU are really the good guys.

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    Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dragon View Post
    The EU, that made massive austerity cuts. Forcibly so on Ireland Spain Italy Greece. They have gone full pelt on austerity. The UK just flirted with austerity, it didnt go anywhere near as far as was planned.

    Spain facing 45% Youth unemployment, Greece facing generations of recovery. Yeah the EU are really the good guys.
    What's that got to do with how we voted and anyway poorer communities have been hit by welfare benefit cuts so I don't think your point stands. Why on earth are you comparing the UK with Greece?

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    Re: All I have been hearing from OUT voters....

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    What's that got to do with how we voted and anyway poorer communities have been hit by welfare benefit cuts so I don't think your point stands. Why on earth are you comparing the UK with Greece?


    The op was talking about austerity here in the UK, and saying we are better off with europe. The same EU who actually punished several nations with extremely harsh austerity. The EU has made their situation worse. But the OP seems to think we would have had less austerity if we were further integrated into europe. Whereas its clear we would have faced harsher austerity forced upon us.

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