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    Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Jeremy Corbyn faces a coup this week by members of his shadow cabinet, led by Hilary Benn, the Observer can reveal.

    It is understood that the shadow foreign secretary called fellow MPs over the weekend to suggest that he will ask Corbyn to stand down if there is significant support for a move against the leader. He has also asked shadow cabinet colleagues to join him in resigning if the Labour leader ignores that request

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...erendum-brexit

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    Finally get an honest politician and the other politicians want to oust him. Typical.

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    Re: Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Finally get an honest politician and the other politicians want to oust him. Typical.
    Corbyn (not his politics) is a shower of s**t to be fair. His efforts in the campaign were pathetic and his failure to even address the criticism today were cowardly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Corbyn (not his politics) is a shower of s**t to be fair. His efforts in the campaign were pathetic and his failure to even address the criticism today were cowardly.
    Maybe he was a secret Brexiter? *wink wink, nudge nudge*
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 25-06-16 at 23:00.

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    Re: Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Maybe he was a secret Brexiter? *wink wink, nudge nudge*
    I don't think it's very secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Corbyn (not his politics) is a shower of s**t to be fair. His efforts in the campaign were pathetic and his failure to even address the criticism today were cowardly.
    He won the Labour leadership with his honesty, integrity and traditional Labour values. He was positive in the campaign about the EU where is backed his Labour values but wasn't afraid to say where the EU wasn't so great and didn't position himself as one of its main supporters, this honestly represents not only his stance but also a traditional labour stance. The traditional pro-European parties seem to be the Tories and Lid Dems and no one backed the EU like Tim Farron.

    The labour supporters previously backed Corbyn values and prevented the revolt from the party (who seem to care about destroying Corbyn, getting into power and fighting for labour policy...in that order) but now the party thinks that labour supporters are generally pro-European and see their chance.

    If you are going to be talking about pathetic campaigns then you should look at the negativity and misinformation spouted by Boris, by Cameron by the majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    He won the Labour leadership with his honesty, integrity and traditional Labour values. He was positive in the campaign about the EU where is backed his Labour values but wasn't afraid to say where the EU wasn't so great and didn't position himself as one of its main supporters, this honestly represents not only his stance but also a traditional labour stance. The traditional pro-European parties seem to be the Tories and Lid Dems and no one backed the EU like Tim Farron.

    The labour supporters previously backed Corbyn values and prevented the revolt from the party (who seem to care about destroying Corbyn, getting into power and fighting for labour policy...in that order) but now the party thinks that labour supporters are generally pro-European and see their chance.

    If you are going to be talking about pathetic campaigns then you should look at the negativity and misinformation spouted by Boris, by Cameron by the majority.
    We're obviously going to disagree on Corbyn's campaigning efficacy. That's fair enough. You seem to be a Labour supporter? Can I ask a question in all politeness (as someone from afar who is sympathetic to core socialist principles)? I don't see how Labour can span the interests of its traditional voters who appear to have voted en masse for Leave and its activists who are clearly very strong Remain supporters. In short it appears f**ked to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    We're obviously going to disagree on Corbyn's campaigning efficacy. That's fair enough. You seem to be a Labour supporter? Can I ask a question in all politeness (as someone from afar who is sympathetic to core socialist principles)? I don't see how Labour can span the interests of its traditional voters who appear to have voted en masse for Leave and its activists who are clearly very strong Remain supporters. In short it appears f**ked to me.
    Corbyn was the only potential leader (as far as I recall) saying in the campaign that Labour had to be a big tent and a broad church, maybe because he had to say it more than most, but all Labour does these days is try to deny that and say "we need a period of relection".

    Corbyn's views resonate enough with the party membership to get him elected and if, as I think many suspect, he is not pro-EU then at least part of his views resonates with 52% of voters, but how many Labour politicians or groups have really backed him for at least a week? He probably isn't strong enough to be a prime minister but much of his personality, much of his views should be exactly what Labour are looking for and yet they seem more interested in people like Chuka who dropped out of the leadership campaign and hasn't stopped talking about it since or David Milliband who said nothing when press were accusing his brother of stabbing him in the back only to return drop "they chose the wrong brother" and fly off again. The party seems to want someone who can woo the press more than anything else.

    Think it's Peter Hitchens who said that Labour and Tories are like two corpses propping each other up and what we need is both to fall so politicians that represent people's views can thrive but I'm not sure if that's a good thing if it gives people like Boris (who is pro-EU but wanted power and has now got it by blatantly misrepresenting his position and the facts about the EU) or IDS or May or Farage etc. more power. We do need two party politics to fall but that would just be the start of political reform, something that was really needed before deciding whether the EU can match us or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Finally get an honest politician and the other politicians want to oust him. Typical.
    Hilary Benn and Stephen Kinnock involved.

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    Hilary Benn spoke really well that time ( was it with the family tax credit cuts, its late )

    he will do well

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    Hilary Benn spoke really well that time ( was it with the family tax credit cuts, its late )

    he will do well
    It was supporting the bombing of Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It was about Bombing Syria.
    thats right, that speech he made was really impressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Hilary Benn and Stephen Kinnock involved.
    Both credible politicians

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    Re: Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Finally get an honest politician and the other politicians want to oust him. Typical.
    An honest politician who puts principles before power. I may not share his political philosophy, but I believe that what he does is not done for the benefit of Jeremy Corbyn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZ Jack View Post
    An honest politician who puts principles before power. I may not share his political philosophy, but I believe that what he does is not done for the benefit of Jeremy Corbyn.
    Christ. A first. I agree with you.

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    I have said it before, Labour with Corbyn as the leader stands very little chance of winning anything

    i am 100 % labour but really feel no connection with him as all, nothing, nada, zilch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Finally get an honest politician and the other politicians want to oust him. Typical.
    Yes I agree mate but sad to say Corbyn is no leader. Besides the public bullshit over this. They would far rather vote for serial liars like Johnson because he is a bit of a character.

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    Re: Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Finally get an honest politician and the other politicians want to oust him. Typical.
    onist ? this is a leader who had very little time for the EU yet pretended to endorse it, his flock saw through him and deserted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    onist ? this is a leader who had very little time for the EU yet pretended to endorse it, his flock saw through him and deserted him.
    Not much of a flock though. He came from nowhere to win so didn't really have many allies in the first place but that matters more to MPs than it does to Labour supporters. This looks like another big sulk.

    With regard to leadership, we've had more statesmanlike types just recently and they've taken us to an illegal war, a economic crisis, some awful aspects of austerity, a disenfranchised populace and now the possible break-up of the UK. Maybe we should ditch looking for the stereotype.

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    They say a week is a long time in politics - now I believe it!

    I get the feeling that events are fast getting ahead of everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They say a week is a long time in politics - now I believe it!

    I get the feeling that events are fast getting ahead of everybody.
    Yeah I agree. I genuinely don't think anyone has a Scoobie about what to do next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yeah I agree. I genuinely don't think anyone has a Scoobie about what to do next.
    some do

    start a petition seems popular

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    Re: Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Hilary Benn sacked from the Shadow Cabinet.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36632539

    The phoney war is over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Hilary Benn sacked from the Shadow Cabinet.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36632539

    The phoney war is over!
    Corbyn strikes quickly and nips the coup in the bud.

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    Re: Mass Labour Shadow Cabinet Resignations Planned

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Hilary Benn sacked from the Shadow Cabinet.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36632539

    The phoney war is over!
    just makes Corbyn look like a dead man walking

    Oh i will sack anyone who doesnt back me

    he should have just taken a leaf out of my book, i would have tied im up in knots, he would have been looking sheepishly at the ground speechless in no time

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