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    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    I understood what you were saying, but i found it entertaining you first said :



    my scenario was suddenly a fact and not scaremongering





    then you downgraded it to scaremongering

    when in reality its just some bloke sat on his PC concerned about giving up out armed forces and leaving them in the full control of the EU
    There was no downgrading. you clearly havent understood what I wrote. Please go back and read it again.

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The majority in Brussels decide who they are going to bomb or not.
    of course, once it has been agreed to hand power to them in the first place, correct.

    put it this way, they wont have control of the army without consent from the uk parliament.

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    There was no downgrading. you clearly havent understood what I wrote. Please go back and read it again.
    No, i dont want to do this again with someone else, but you wrote

    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    it's funny, when economists warn against brexit, its scaremongering. When you talk about something far more far-fetched, it's fact. go figure
    look at the above quote, you imply it wasnt scaremongering but was fact

    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    so it's guaranteed to happen following an IN vote, right? jeez talk about scaremongering
    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    are you trying to tell me that this isnt going to happen? then why bring it up? oh right yeah, scaremongering
    then you call it scaremongering

  4. #64

    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    No, i dont want to do this again with someone else, but you wrote



    look at the above quote, you imply it wasnt scaremongering but was fact





    then you call it scaremongering
    There's where you arent understanding what I wrote.

  5. #65

    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    There's where you arent understanding what I wrote.
    i have to admit, i dont understand what you meant then

  6. #66

    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    i have to admit, i dont understand what you meant then
    yeah... me neither ha. But that bit in bold is the bit you're misunderstanding. (got there)

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    yeah... me neither ha. But that bit in bold is the bit you're misunderstanding. (got there)
    reminds me of a kids show

    If you dont know

    and i dont know

    who knows


    a quick google tells me it was " Bits and Bobs "

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    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    of course, once it has been agreed to hand power to them in the first place, correct.

    put it this way, they wont have control of the army without consent from the uk parliament.
    What UK parliament? Under political unification all nations will cease to exist. I think you need to look into it a bit more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What UK parliament? Under political unification all nations will cease to exist. I think you need to look into it a bit more
    ok, so lets go towards that. The parliament won't cease to exist until power is transferred to the EU parliament. They don't just take it by default. Perhaps you should brush up first

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy31 View Post
    ok, so lets go towards that. The parliament won't cease to exist until power is transferred to the EU parliament. They don't just take it by default. Perhaps you should brush up first
    It will be a clean slate. You can't have 28 nations submitting pre-conditions. The United States of Europe will be a new country. If they say German will be the first language that is what will happen.

  11. #71

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    A single army (which Cameron said would never happen)
    One central bank
    No control of Criminal Law system
    EU wide taxation.
    No border controls whatsoever.
    WE would not have shared Sovereignty - WE WOULD HAVE NO SOVEREIGNTY

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    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catkins51 View Post
    A single army (which Cameron said would never happen)
    One central bank
    No control of Criminal Law system
    EU wide taxation.
    No border controls whatsoever.
    WE would not have shared Sovereignty - WE WOULD HAVE NO SOVEREIGNTY
    I'm not seeing the downside ?

    Would citizens of a united states of Europe have more or less SOVEREIGNTY than those of the united states of America?

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    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by ian gibson View Post
    The Coudenhove-Kalergi plan
    Have you seen any of the winners of theCoudenhove-Kalergi European Prize?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It will be a clean slate. You can't have 28 nations submitting pre-conditions. The United States of Europe will be a new country. If they say German will be the first language that is what will happen.
    Can't see a National health service fitting in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I'm not seeing the downside ?

    Would citizens of a united states of Europe have more or less SOVEREIGNTY than those of the united states of America?
    You do realize that once the United States of Europe project is complete, it then moves onto the United States of Europe, Asia and the Middle-East, followed by Africa. This is a globalist project. And they are not coming up to our level, we are going down to theirs. What do you thing the financial crisis and austerity is all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You do realize that once the United States of Europe project is complete, it then moves onto the United States of Europe, Asia and the Middle-East, followed by Africa. This is a globalist project. And they are not coming up to our level, we are going down to theirs. What do you thing the financial crisis and austerity is all about?
    Plenty more wild fantasy presented as fact again there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Plenty more wild fantasy presented as fact again there.
    Mate, there are plenty of first person accounts, along with official and leaked documents on the internet, open your eyes and get your arse out of the BBC

  17. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Mate, there are plenty of first person accounts, along with official and leaked documents on the internet, open your eyes and get your arse out of the BBC
    There's a lot of bullshit out there posted by fantasists as well.
    In my experience most people who are into "alternative" news suffer even more from confirmation bias than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    There's a lot of bullshit out there posted by fantasists as well.
    In my experience most people who are into "alternative" news suffer even more from confirmation bias than most people.
    So just ignore the "alternative" news and consult the actual documents and direct quotes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So just ignore the "alternative" news and consult the actual documents and direct quotes
    If any ever get posted on here then I might.

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    Re: European Superstate Imminent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    If any ever get posted on here then I might.
    Did you ever get around to looking at that Saving Syria's children stuff?

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