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Thread: GLAMMY

  1. #3341

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Yes, I think it is down to cost. There’s no game at Newport then? I thought they’d have a one day game and we really should be playing some cricket at St Helen’s - it’s terrible the way that grounds been allowed to go to pot.
    When I was a lad I used to go to St Helens several times a season with my dad, in fact I preferred it to the old Sophia Gardens ground (I also liked the old Arms Park Ground)

    I can understand why they play the majoritty of games in Cardiff but I agree that they should play some cricket at swansea and the odd day at some of the other grounds.

  2. #3342

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Buttler should still be part of the ODI and T20 squads but not the Test team. Time to move on.
    People who know more about these things than me say that Buttler is potentially a good captain and with so few batting places nailed down in the test team, I wonder if the selectors (if England have any at the moment!) are looking at him as a possible replacement for Root? Iím not too keen on Stokes taking over because I think all of his attention should go towards giving the team as much as he can with bat and ball.

    With no spinner really putting their hand up to be selected, Iíd also consider Liam Livingston as a Moeen Ali type all rounder at number eight - he can bowl decent leg and off spin in limited overs cricket and I would be encouraging him to work really hard on it to see if he can make the step up to test cricket.

  3. #3343

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    When I was a lad I used to go to St Helens several times a season with my dad, in fact I preferred it to the old Sophia Gardens ground (I also liked the old Arms Park Ground)

    I can understand why they play the majoritty of games in Cardiff but I agree that they should play some cricket at swansea and the odd day at some of the other grounds.
    Swansea was unique on the county cricket circuit, the Liberty Stadium, or whatever it’s called these days, has a lot to answer for!

  4. #3344

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I agree, very disappointing stuff. You could make a case for saying that they were unlucky to lose an impirtant toss, but their batting in the second innings has knocked that on the head.

    One other thing, when we next play Middlesex at home, can we take it to an out ground (why canít we play at that lovely ground at Abergavenny again?), we seem to be beaten before a ball is bowled when we play them in Cardiff.
    abergavenny was a lovely ground i watched them play i think it was gloucester one year cant remember which two batsman caused carnage up there

  5. #3345

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    People who know more about these things than me say that Buttler is potentially a good captain and with so few batting places nailed down in the test team, I wonder if the selectors (if England have any at the moment!) are looking at him as a possible replacement for Root? I’m not too keen on Stokes taking over because I think all of his attention should go towards giving the team as much as he can with bat and ball.

    With no spinner really putting their hand up to be selected, I’d also consider Liam Livingston as a Moeen Ali type all rounder at number eight - he can bowl decent leg and off spin in limited overs cricket and I would be encouraging him to work really hard on it to see if he can make the step up to test cricket.

    Fully agree on Stokes not being captain and looking to bring Livingston into the Test team. I really hope the selectors resist bringing back Buttler. I don’t think he has the right temperament for Test cricket and goodness knows he has had enough chances. It would also cause further issues about whether he keeps wicket or not.

    I would go with James Vince as the next captain.

  6. #3346

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    Quote Originally Posted by poc View Post
    abergavenny was a lovely ground i watched them play i think it was gloucester one year cant remember which two batsman caused carnage up there
    Yes, I saw them play against Gloucester and Northants at Abergavenny - I think Viv Richards scored a few against Gloucestershire on the day I was there.

  7. #3347

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Fully agree on Stokes not being captain and looking to bring Livingston into the Test team. I really hope the selectors resist bringing back Buttler. I don’t think he has the right temperament for Test cricket and goodness knows he has had enough chances. It would also cause further issues about whether he keeps wicket or not.

    I would go with James Vince as the next captain.
    Ordinarily, I’d agree that Buttler has had enough chances and the same should also apply to James Vince, but the cupboard is so bare when it comes to test class batsmen at the moment that, apart from Root and Stokes, I don’t see anyone who you could rely on to consistently outscore Buttler, or Vince for that matter, over a period of, say, two years. As for wicket keeping, Buttler would have to give that op for me if he was to become captain.

  8. #3348

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    Roll over Glamorgan.

    Not good.

  9. #3349

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    Iíve been abroad and not been able to keep an eye on this, save the notifications coming through, which has done me a favour I guess. What a turnaround from last week.

    Following on from what TOBW has said re: playing Middlesex at Sophia Gardens. I canít back this up with any stats but Iíve half thought for a while that weíve tended to do better away from home generally and we donít get much of a home advantage in Cardiff. But as Iíve said, thatís not based on any stats Iíve bothered to unearth and probably added to by the fact weíve not been that great consistently at home - or away! - for a while generally.

    I do have a soft spot for St Helenís and itís a shame the state itís gotten into. On talk of out grounds, I picked up some Wisden book on county cricket grounds in a charity shop in east London a few years back. Great little Time Capsule of a book, pre Durham getting first class status I think. Glammy had quite a number in there, Iíd have to check but one of the most out of any county, but also easily the most venues out of the historic county too compared to others. Outside of the ones mentioned here so far I think Ponty, Merthyr, Ebbw Vale, Aberystwyth and Llanelli, have all hosted games at some points.

  10. #3350

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    Quote Originally Posted by poc View Post
    abergavenny was a lovely ground i watched them play i think it was gloucester one year cant remember which two batsman caused carnage up there
    Abergavenny was (is) a great ground. They used to play all over didn't they. I've seen them play in Abergavenny, Newport, Ebbw Vale (I think), Pontypridd, Neath (the coldest I've ever been at a cricket match) as well as Cardiff. Not been to Swansea or Colwyn Bay.

  11. #3351

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Abergavenny was (is) a great ground. They used to play all over didn't they. I've seen them play in Abergavenny, Newport, Ebbw Vale (I think), Pontypridd, Neath (the coldest I've ever been at a cricket match) as well as Cardiff. Not been to Swansea or Colwyn Bay.
    i did venture to colwyn bay once another one was a sunday 40 or 50 over game at pentyrch, swansea was a great ground as well

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    The way they are batting this morning best they play in the back garden so no one can get to see this appalling innings.

  13. #3353

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    Buttler is nowhere near a good enough batsman or wicketkeeper for Test Cricket.

    I saw an interview with I think Ramprakash about Buttler and Buttler was looking for help. Ramps said he would be throwing balls down and he wanted Buttler to play each ball on merit. Buttler really struggled with that concept.

    A brilliant short game player. Test career now should be over.

  14. #3354

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    St Helens is a shithole. Travelling to get there on public transport a nightmare.

  15. #3355

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    Well, what an awful performance by Glamorgan. I think we stay just ahead of middlesex points wise after this. Hopefully the other games around the championship will end in draws. Need to beat Derbyshire next week now !

  16. #3356

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    St Helens is a shithole. Travelling to get there on public transport a nightmare.
    I find it an enjoyable walk from station to ground when the suns out, along the beachfront. Bit of a ballache in the rain mind

  17. #3357

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Just to change the subject slightly, but Jos Buttler hit another century in the IPL today. That's his 3rd of the season in 8 games. Hes also got 2 50's. There's only been 1 other ton this year.
    Iíve been watching the IPL recently and the standard of bowling is so bad , I sometimes think they are told to bowl bad in order to make it exiting for the batsman. The amount of balls bowled halfway down the wicket and sitting up nicely for the batsman does make you wonder.

  18. #3358

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Buttler is nowhere near a good enough batsman or wicketkeeper for Test Cricket.

    I saw an interview with I think Ramprakash about Buttler and Buttler was looking for help. Ramps said he would be throwing balls down and he wanted Buttler to play each ball on merit. Buttler really struggled with that concept.

    A brilliant short game player. Test career now should be over.
    Buttler has a test average of 31.94 over 57 tests, not great I accept, but there’s that stat doing the rounds about Rory Burns being the only one of the England batsmen brought into the team in recent years to have an average of over 30 and it’s barely over it - it’s less than Buttler’s .

    Now, if you want to talk about under achieving test batsmen then Mark Ramprakash is right up there - 27.32 in fifty two tests, that’s a woeful return for a specialist batsman with the amount of ability he had.

  19. #3359

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yep our record is dreadful against them in Cardiff. Is there a cost implication playing games outside of Sophia Gardens? I presume Colwyn Bay will have it’s usual games. Beyond that Neath have a couple of Royal London games and that’s about it.
    I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
    It's nothing new.

  20. #3360

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    I’ve been watching the IPL recently and the standard of bowling is so bad , I sometimes think they are told to bowl bad in order to make it exiting for the batsman. The amount of balls bowled halfway down the wicket and sitting up nicely for the batsman does make you wonder.

    Are you talking about the overs by Unadkat or Tymal Mills by any chance ? 2 of the worst death bowling displays I've ever seen

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