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    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Welsh Fire have a mostly domestic (English) batting line up full of players who, Pope apart, are county performers currently. Now, if I was a marketing man, I’d have tried to get the team to sign Welsh born Phil Salt who is currently closer to the England one day teams than the likes of Clarke, Duckett, Banton and Hain, so you’d be getting a good player who could be marketed as the Welsh face of the team representing the country - increasingly, people will notice the lack of Welshmen and women in the squads, especially if results stay as poor as they have been for a season and more.

    I can’t comment on the women yet, but the men’s side looks a poorly put together cricket team to me - granted, they’ve been unlucky to lose Bairstow.
    I understand where you're coming from totally but the team have just had the largest domestic cricket crowd in Wales ever.

    Marketing clearly isn't a problem at the moment. As you have rightly pointed out too, this crowd is off the back of some very poor performances.

    If the performances stay bad then people will simply not go to games. I'm not sure they'll be thinking "Right, how many Welsh players have we got before I consider still going to games or not". I just don't think it is factored in as much as many would like to think it is in any sport these days.

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    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    I understand where you're coming from totally but the team have just had the largest domestic cricket crowd in Wales ever.

    Marketing clearly isn't a problem at the moment. As you have rightly pointed out too, this crowd is off the back of some very poor performances.

    If the performances stay bad then people will simply not go to games. I'm not sure they'll be thinking "Right, how many Welsh players have we got before I consider still going to games or not". I just don't think it is factored in as much as many would like to think it is in any sport these days.
    I’m not sure where this claim about the biggest domestic attendance cricket ever in Wales comes from, but this game which I can just about remember seems to have had a bigger crowd than Sophia Gardens’ current capacity.

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...201964&f=false

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    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I’m not sure where this claim about the biggest domestic attendance cricket ever in Wales comes from, but this game which I can just about remember seems to have had a bigger crowd than Sophia Gardens’ current capacity.

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...201964&f=false
    That was against Australia. Stretching it a bit to give a crowd for a match against an international team but whatever really.

    The main point was that they get a lot more than Glamorgan do for domestic games currently. They do, whether you like it or not, or their lack of Welshness.
    You say the team is bad, fair enough. Adding glamorgan players who are struggling in lesser competitions isn't the answer though. As much as it would put a few thousand on the gate once they heard they were Welsh...

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    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    That was against Australia. Stretching it a bit to give a crowd for a match against an international team but whatever really.

    The main point was that they get a lot more than Glamorgan do for domestic games currently. They do, whether you like it or not, or their lack of Welshness.
    You say the team is bad, fair enough. Adding glamorgan players who are struggling in lesser competitions isn't the answer though. As much as it would put a few thousand on the gate once they heard they were Welsh...
    You seem to be taking this personally, do you work for the ECB or Welsh Fire . All I’m saying is that the claim that it was the biggest everWelsh crowd never sounded right to me - that’s not say it wasn’t an impressive attendance and there was another one yesterday, but there weren’t 20,000 at either game and when you see how much football crowds went up in the immediate post war years, I’d say there’s a good chance bigger crowds watched Glamorgan as they closed in on the Championship in 1947.

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    Re: GLAMMY

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You seem to be taking this personally, do you work for the ECB or Welsh Fire . All I’m saying is that the claim that it was the biggest everWelsh crowd never sounded right to me - that’s not say it wasn’t an impressive attendance and there was another one yesterday, but there weren’t 20,000 at either game and when you see how much football crowds went up in the immediate post war years, I’d say there’s a good chance bigger crowds watched Glamorgan as they closed in on the Championship in 1947.
    I'm taking it personally? You replied to a six day old message. What am I taking personally? I just think your point about Welshness would please fans isn't a great one when the team with more Welsh players get a lower crowd.
    The Welshness of the cricket players doesn't seem to matter to many people as it does to you.

    Maybe it is the biggest crowd for two domestic teams then. Maybe it isn't. What I do know is that it is a bigger crowd than have watched Glamorgan for many a year.

    Those facts don't change however many people grumble.

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