GLAMMY

[poc]

Abergavenny was (is) a great ground. They used to play all over didn't they. I've seen them play in Abergavenny, Newport, Ebbw Vale (I think), Pontypridd, Neath (the coldest I've ever been at a cricket match) as well as Cardiff. Not been to Swansea or Colwyn Bay.

i did venture to colwyn bay once another one was a sunday 40 or 50 over game at pentyrch, swansea was a great ground as well

[Majorblue]

The way they are batting this morning best they play in the back garden so no one can get to see this appalling innings.

[Hilts]

Buttler is nowhere near a good enough batsman or wicketkeeper for Test Cricket.

I saw an interview with I think Ramprakash about Buttler and Buttler was looking for help. Ramps said he would be throwing balls down and he wanted Buttler to play each ball on merit. Buttler really struggled with that concept.

A brilliant short game player. Test career now should be over.

[Hilts]

St Helens is a shithole. Travelling to get there on public transport a nightmare.

[chrisp_1927]

Well, what an awful performance by Glamorgan. I think we stay just ahead of middlesex points wise after this. Hopefully the other games around the championship will end in draws. Need to beat Derbyshire next week now !

[chrisp_1927]

St Helens is a shithole. Travelling to get there on public transport a nightmare.

I find it an enjoyable walk from station to ground when the suns out, along the beachfront. Bit of a ballache in the rain mind

[TWGL1]

Just to change the subject slightly, but Jos Buttler hit another century in the IPL today. That's his 3rd of the season in 8 games. Hes also got 2 50's. There's only been 1 other ton this year.

I’ve been watching the IPL recently and the standard of bowling is so bad , I sometimes think they are told to bowl bad in order to make it exiting for the batsman. The amount of balls bowled halfway down the wicket and sitting up nicely for the batsman does make you wonder.

[the other bob wilson]

Buttler is nowhere near a good enough batsman or wicketkeeper for Test Cricket.

I saw an interview with I think Ramprakash about Buttler and Buttler was looking for help. Ramps said he would be throwing balls down and he wanted Buttler to play each ball on merit. Buttler really struggled with that concept.

A brilliant short game player. Test career now should be over.

Buttler has a test average of 31.94 over 57 tests, not great I accept, but there’s that stat doing the rounds about Rory Burns being the only one of the England batsmen brought into the team in recent years to have an average of over 30 and it’s barely over it - it’s less than Buttler’s .

Now, if you want to talk about under achieving test batsmen then Mark Ramprakash is right up there - 27.32 in fifty two tests, that’s a woeful return for a specialist batsman with the amount of ability he had.

[The Bloop]

Yep our record is dreadful against them in Cardiff. Is there a cost implication playing games outside of Sophia Gardens? I presume Colwyn Bay will have it’s usual games. Beyond that Neath have a couple of Royal London games and that’s about it.

I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

[chrisp_1927]

I’ve been watching the IPL recently and the standard of bowling is so bad , I sometimes think they are told to bowl bad in order to make it exiting for the batsman. The amount of balls bowled halfway down the wicket and sitting up nicely for the batsman does make you wonder.

Are you talking about the overs by Unadkat or Tymal Mills by any chance ? 2 of the worst death bowling displays I've ever seen

[TWGL1]

Yes , and loads of other occasions , why don’t they just bowl full and straight and mix up the pace ?

[the other bob wilson]

I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

Tufnell bowled us out for something like a hundred in the second innings of that that match and I’m fairly sure Middlesex bowled us out for 32 I think it was when we won the title in 97.

I tell a lie, it was 31!

http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/AR...14JUN1997.html

[Hilts]

Buttler has a test average of 31.94 over 57 tests, not great I accept, but there’s that stat doing the rounds about Rory Burns being the only one of the England batsmen brought into the team in recent years to have an average of over 30 and it’s barely over it - it’s less than Buttler’s .

Now, if you want to talk about under achieving test batsmen then Mark Ramprakash is right up there - 27.32 in fifty two tests, that’s a woeful return for a specialist batsman with the amount of ability he had.

Ramprakash just fell apart mentally.

His introduction I believe was against that fantastic West Indies side.

Massive under achiever. I actually thought he should have been brought back in his mid to late 30s.

Pope I believe averages around 50 , Vince around 40.

So many batsmen have terrible techniques its hardly suprising. Dates back to around the 80s when for some reason some thought the way to go was standing upright like a baseball player.

[the other bob wilson]

I’ve been abroad and not been able to keep an eye on this, save the notifications coming through, which has done me a favour I guess. What a turnaround from last week.

Following on from what TOBW has said re: playing Middlesex at Sophia Gardens. I can’t back this up with any stats but I’ve half thought for a while that we’ve tended to do better away from home generally and we don’t get much of a home advantage in Cardiff. But as I’ve said, that’s not based on any stats I’ve bothered to unearth and probably added to by the fact we’ve not been that great consistently at home - or away! - for a while generally.

I do have a soft spot for St Helen’s and it’s a shame the state it’s gotten into. On talk of out grounds, I picked up some Wisden book on county cricket grounds in a charity shop in east London a few years back. Great little Time Capsule of a book, pre Durham getting first class status I think. Glammy had quite a number in there, I’d have to check but one of the most out of any county, but also easily the most venues out of the historic county too compared to others. Outside of the ones mentioned here so far I think Ponty, Merthyr, Ebbw Vale, Aberystwyth and Llanelli, have all hosted games at some points.

Yes, I can remember us playing at all of those grounds - I’ve seen us play at the first three of them. We also played a Sunday League match at Pentyrch about thirty years ago and we played Surrey a few years at some village in west Wales, I’d not heard of before or since!

We beat Kent and Middlesex at Cardiff in four matches last season and I seem to remember reading after the first of them that was our first win Cardiff for three years - I may be wrong there, but we haven’t won many in Cardiff in the last decade or so.

[the other bob wilson]

Ramprakash just fell apart mentally.

His introduction I believe was against that fantastic West Indies side.

Massive under achiever. I actually thought he should have been brought back in his mid to late 30s.

Pope I believe averages around 50 , Vince around 40.

So many batsmen have terrible techniques its hardly suprising. Dates back to around the 80s when for some reason some thought the way to go was standing upright like a baseball player.

Pope and Vince might have those averages in the first class game, but they definitely don’t in test cricket.

[Hilts]

Pope and Vince might have those averages in the first class game, but they definitely don’t in test cricket.

Yes. I meant 1st class. Thats the issue. There are few batsmen in 1st class cricket really knocking that door down to be picked.

Ive found myself saying put in Livingstone. But Ive said the same about Buttler , Hales , Roy all these destructive batsmen.

On the flip side then theres the likes of Roy and Sibley with appalling techniques.

The Test side is a complete mess.

[Pearcey3]

I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

I’m a long suffering Glammy fan too! This performance really hasn’t been acceptable with the side we had out. This is a strong line up and they should have done a lot better.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

I watched some that one too. Still can't believe we lost!

[TWGL1]

Yes, I can remember us playing at all of those grounds - I’ve seen us play at the first three of them. We also played a Sunday League match at Pentyrch about thirty years ago and we played Surrey a few years at some village in west Wales, I’d not heard of before or since!

We beat Kent and Middlesex at Cardiff in four matches last season and I seem to remember reading after the first of them that was our first win Cardiff for three years - I may be wrong there, but we haven’t won many in Cardiff in the last decade or so.

I went to that one in Pentyrch , I think it was Northamptonshire and Curtley Ambrose was playing

[the other bob wilson]

I went to that one in Pentyrch , I think it was Northamptonshire and Curtley Ambrose was playing

Yes it was Northants - here’s a list of the grounds Glamorgan have played at;-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...t_Club_grounds

[The Bloop]

I remember going to Ynysangharad Park to watch Jacques Kallis's debut in the Sunday league. He scored a big 100 and was just hitting the ball out of the park for fun.

[Hot Shot Hamish.]

I was working on the main scoreboard that day. Had a few beers too many and I had the one Surrey bowler as having bowled 17 overs. I think it was a 50 over game with a max of 10 overs per bowler. By the time they put me on traffic duty to clear the park at the end of the game it was safer for the drivers to work out their exit without my assistance! As a Pontypridd player having Glamorgan use our ground was something super special. Saw Viv score a great ton there against Derby. Pakistan 500 odd for 2 Saheed Anwar and Inzamam getting huge hundreds. 1994 South Africans. Malcolm Marshall skittled Glamorgan and getting back to Southampton for his 4.30 tee off time. Great memories!

[The Bloop]

Second century of the season for Bracey of Gloucestershire and Haines of Sussex is 203 not out, a couple of possible England players doing well there.

There’s a possibility of a remarkable achievement at Canterbury where Kent opener Ben Compton (Dennis Compton’s grand son), having carried his bat in the first innings is still in second time around with seven wickets down - I’m sure an opener has batted right through both innings some time before in cricket, but, having been a fan of the game since the mid sixties, I’m not sure it’s happened in the domestic game in all of that time.

Bob - a bit more on Ben Compton in this week's Ask Steven column

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/a...nnings-1312290

[the other bob wilson]

Bob - a bit more on Ben Compton in this week's Ask Steven column

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/a...nnings-1312290

Thanks Bloop, I’d heard somewhere else that the lbw decision that probably cost him his two not outs was a shocker.

[chrisp_1927]

Up at Derbyshire today, looks like callus Taylor and Douthwaite drop out the squad. Tom Cullen and Premier Sisodia come in. Hopefully Weighell will get a go again, thought he was quite unlikely to lose his place last match