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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianAlston View Post
    https://x.com/CCFCRelated/status/1782760606384222339

    From Llanwern. Let's hope we can hang onto him.
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    Came on tonight in the under-15 game, nearly scored with his first touch and looked full of tricks. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

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    Came on tonight in the under-15 game, nearly scored with his first touch and looked full of tricks. Definitely one to keep an eye on.
    More likely to be the next one poached and the club offered a pittance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PontBlue View Post
    More likely to be the next one poached and the club offered a pittance.
    I saw Manchester City agreed a deal to sign a 14 year old from Philadelphia Union for $5m, he'll be joining Citeh in 2027

    Madness.

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    Kpakio makes it 3-2, lovely move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    A couple of months ago, people were saying we only had Jamie Collins who could play left back, but with Pagan and Tom Davies to come back, it's going to be the position where, maybe, we have the most depth.

    Not seen enough of Jac Thomas to comment on him really, but I was not surprised at the time when it was Beecher who got some game time in the League Cup tie at blackburn rather than Giles, who was also on the bench for that game. We were losing at the time and, from what I've seen, although Giles is very good from dead ball situations, Beecher is the better of the two when it comes to the attacking side of things - the injury which has kept him out for so much of this season has set him back a bit, but he's someone who's always impressed me.

    Giles strikes me as the better defender of the two and it might be significant that he's been used in a back three at times by the under 21s , with natural left sided centre backs seemingly being like gold dust in the modern game, I can see him moving across to play there if he grows to be tall enough - that would solve the problem of which one of the two to play if they both turn out to be good enough.

    Beecher is someone who could easily play as an inverted, forward thinking full back, but that might mean that we'd see less of his excellent crossing ability which I think of as the most impressive e part of his game currently. Talking of inverted full backs, I was so impressed yesterday with Kpakio on the right, he's a decent size already and looked a natural for the role whereby full backs are expected to spend more time in the opposition half than their own.
    I'd agree with all of that. Although, as we have discussed before, I think that Beecher is more of a winger than a full back. When he came on for the 1st team it was as a left wing back. Luey Giles on the other hand plays LCB when we revert to 3 at the back.

    I caught up with the match last night. I, too, was impressed with Kpakio. He has really developed this season, particularly physically. He and Spiers are an excellent pair of young right backs and I presume the current Wales U16 incumbent, Noah Williams, will sign on for next season. I think he's from Penarth.

    It will be interesting if Tom Davies is offered a new contract. He is a very cultured footballer (as you would expect from a converted midfielder) and a good athlete, but needed to improve his defence. I like Joel Bagan, but Davies has always struck me as a better prospect. Didn't Bulut comment, preseason, about the coaching team being surprised how good he was.

    So a wealth of young talent at left back, but do we think JC is good enough to be a 1st choice full back in a promotion winning team? Regrettably not, so I can see the club signing another. Managers rarely look beyond next season, which is one of modern football's worst qualities and why, for us, despite the improvement, on the pitch the failure this season has been that there has been no investment into the longer term. It has been about polishing Bulut's CV and proving Dalman right over Tan rather than a long term strategy.

    A club that was in our position at the end of last season should have had a three year plan. But given that we were relegation favourites and under a transfer embargo maybe one season of a hard, pragmatic manager like Bulut was a wise choice.

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    Highlights from yesterday's 5-1 win for the under-21s here. Shame they don't show all the build-up to the fifth but a good package all the same. If you're a friend or relative of Luke Armstrong just wind through the first minute and a half.

    https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    Highlights from yesterday's 5-1 win for the under-21s here. Shame they don't show all the build-up to the fifth but a good package all the same. If you're a friend or relative of Luke Armstrong just wind through the first minute and a half.

    https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3
    Thanks for posting that.
    Very impressive win. Something exciting to look forward too.

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    According to WOL Darren Davies, the guy brought in to help academy players break through to the first team, left the club in February after just 5 months in the role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    According to WOL Darren Davies, the guy brought in to help academy players break through to the first team, left the club in February after just 5 months in the role.
    Didn’t know he’d been appointed in the first place - doesn’t sound very encouraging does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Didn’t know he’d been appointed in the first place - doesn’t sound very encouraging does it.
    We can see now, what he should have done was injure a dozen established first team players.

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    Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    We can see now, what he should have done was injure a dozen established first team players.
    Ex Swansea. Agent Davies!

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    Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    We can see now, what he should have done was injure a dozen established first team players.
    Ex Swansea. Agent Davies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    No Nyakuhwa in the squad today. Hopefully he's going to be involved on Saturday.

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    I see Giles played today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I see Giles played today.
    At left back with Beecher ahead of him by the look of the highlights. Nice first goal here, good bit of positive play from Semenyo to set it all in motion. Great bit of wing play from Wigley to set up the second.

    https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3

    You may have seen this already but it's an interview with Darren Purse (and Tanatswa Nyakhuwa. Purse is the one with the London accent for anyone who's unsure). He says that Bulut does attend the u-21 games which is something you wondered about earlier in the thread.

    https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...9-448cbd09a9e5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    At left back with Beecher ahead of him by the look of the highlights. Nice first goal here, good bit of positive play from Semenyo to set it all in motion. Great bit of wing play from Wigley to set up the second.

    https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...a-cc2bf408ded3

    You may have seen this already but it's an interview with Darren Purse (and Tanatswa Nyakhuwa. Purse is the one with the London accent for anyone who's unsure). He says that Bulut does attend the u-21 games which is something you wondered about earlier in the thread.

    https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/vide...9-448cbd09a9e5
    Wonder why Nyakhuwa was missing for the u21s and u18s this week, outside chance of being in the squad on Saturday perhaps?

    Could well have been a late injury mind which saw Beecher moved forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Wonder why Nyakhuwa was missing for the u21s and u18s this week, outside chance of being in the squad on Saturday perhaps?

    Could well have been a late injury mind which saw Beecher moved forward
    I mentioned yesterday about Nyakhuwa. He could be ill or taken a knock in training, of course, but I'd like to think he's going to get a run-out on Saturday. I've seen him twice in the last fortnight. Seems like more of a winger but both times he's started as the striker even though there was an alternative so it'll be interesting to see where Bulut uses him if he plays. He played as a winger in the FA Youth Cup game with Fulham before Xmas and was a handful before coming inside to play up the middle, did the reverse in the u-21 game last week. Seems comfortable with either position.

    I've been impressed with him so far. He was quite isolated in the Academy game but he stuck to his task and he was more physical than I expected in the u-21 game. He nicked a goal off Twose there but he came across as a good team player overall, didn't overdo the solo stuff and worked hard throughout. It's a million miles from Championship football, I know, but there's some promise there.

    AdrianAlston has talked about Beecher being more of a left winger than a full back, we'll see. With Giles, Beecher and Jac Thomas all coming through as left backs it's giving the club something to think about at that level.

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    Re: The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    Millwall leading 5-4 (88 mins).

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    Wales under 15s, featuring one City player in the starting line up, are currently 5-1 up against the Czech Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Wales under 15s, featuring one City player in the starting line up, are currently 5-1 up against the Czech Republic.
    Does this mean our other eligible u/15s were pulled out for the Rotherham trip?

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    3 more goals for Millwall in injury time. FT 8-4!!!

    We'd come back from 3-1 and 4-2 to draw level through 4 Mannie Barton goals. Imagine scoring 4 but being on the wrong end of an 8-4 defeat!

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    Finished 8-4 to Millwall after getting back to 4-4 in the 85th minute. Only have the twitter feed to go on so not sure what happened but that's a rather alarming collapse. Big lesson to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    I mentioned yesterday about Nyakhuwa. He could be ill or taken a knock in training, of course, but I'd like to think he's going to get a run-out on Saturday. I've seen him twice in the last fortnight. Seems like more of a winger but both times he's started as the striker even though there was an alternative so it'll be interesting to see where Bulut uses him if he plays. He played as a winger in the FA Youth Cup game with Fulham before Xmas and was a handful before coming inside to play up the middle, did the reverse in the u-21 game last week. Seems comfortable with either position.

    I've been impressed with him so far. He was quite isolated in the Academy game but he stuck to his task and he was more physical than I expected in the u-21 game. He nicked a goal off Twose there but he came across as a good team player overall, didn't overdo the solo stuff and worked hard throughout. It's a million miles from Championship football, I know, but there's some promise there.

    AdrianAlston has talked about Beecher being more of a left winger than a full back, we'll see. With Giles, Beecher and Jac Thomas all coming through as left backs it's giving the club something to think about at that level.
    All left footed players seem to start off with by being stuck at left back and then move forward or centrally if they prove the talent to justify it.

    What did Jamie Carragher say about Right Backs; 'They are all failed wingers or centre halves, nobody grows up dreaming of becoming Gary Neville'.

    Beechers best work is done in the opposition half, but he's a tough little bugger as well so could do a job in defence. You also missed off Tom Davies - a very cultured, intelligent footballer.

    Nyakhuwa has a real chance. The epitome of a modern attacker and could play anywhere across the front three. Has pace, physique and a good work ethic. I hope he gets his chance on the weekend.

    An argument for not spending budget on Karlan Grant for next season is that in a Bulut system, we have Isaak Davies, Ashford and Nyakhuwa all vying for that position. Together can they cover it as adequately or better than Grant has done this season? I think so, but expect some unheard of South-Eastern European to be signed instead.

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