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    Why do people think your a cheerleader if you point out other view of others unlawful indiscretions its the same with UK politics which is riddled with poor behavior on all sides of the political spectrum , all reported on , strange behavior not very democratic and an attack on free speech /views ,its like being in a North Korea single view environment ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Why do people think your a cheerleader if you point out other view of others unlawful indiscretions its the same with UK politics which is riddled with poor behavior on all sides of the political spectrum , all reported on , strange behavior not very democratic and an attack on free speech /views ,its like being in a North Korea single view environment ?
    If anyone was daft enough to read through the whole of this thread, they would see that there are a very small minority of posters who have instinctively backed Donald Trump no matter what . Of course, there is one person who stands out more than anyone else when it comes to this, but you, despite the occasional statement about how little time you have for him, have always fallen in behind him when it comes to expressing an opinion on the President.
    Even Gluey is showing signs of deserting Trump in recent weeks - I remember not so long ago there being general bemusement that a page had been filled in this thread without a contribution from him, now it happens fairly often. I always think of you as more of Gluey cheerleader than a Trump one despite you unfailingly lining up against those of us who are, nearly always, critical of the President.
    Apparently, having the temerity to be critical of President Trump on here is akin to "being in North Korea". Have a look at this link
    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
    and you'll see that out of over 800 Trump statements, 84% of them are deemed to be, at best, half true. Now look at this link
    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/
    and go to almost any of the people listed, including Republicans, and you'll see that they are considered to be more truthful than Trump by this respected fact checking site. You mention North Korea, well, when you consider his flagrant disregard for the truth, his insatiable ego and his entirely self serving motivation, the man in charge of the USA ("the land of the free") seems far more suited to a country with the sort of reputation North Korea has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    If anyone was daft enough to read through the whole of this thread, they would see that there are a very small minority of posters who have instinctively backed Donald Trump no matter what . Of course, there is one person who stands out more than anyone else when it comes to this, but you, despite the occasional statement about how little time you have for him, have always fallen in behind him when it comes to expressing an opinion on the President.
    Even Gluey is showing signs of deserting Trump in recent weeks - I remember not so long ago there being general bemusement that a page had been filled in this thread without a contribution from him, now it happens fairly often. I always think of you as more of Gluey cheerleader than a Trump one despite you unfailingly lining up against those of us who are, nearly always, critical of the President.
    Apparently, having the temerity to be critical of President Trump on here is akin to "being in North Korea". Have a look at this link
    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
    and you'll see that out of over 800 Trump statements, 84% of them are deemed to be, at best, half true. Now look at this link
    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/
    and go to almost any of the people listed, including Republicans, and you'll see that they are considered to be more truthful than Trump by this respected fact checking site. You mention North Korea, well, when you consider his flagrant disregard for the truth, his insatiable ego and his entirely self serving motivation, the man in charge of the USA ("the land of the free") seems far more suited to a country with the sort of reputation North Korea has.
    My position has always been about the rule of law, and the Trump stuff only exists inside your head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    My position has always been about the rule of law, and the Trump stuff only exists inside your head
    Do you actually believe the shit you post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peckerman View Post
    Do you actually believe the shit you post
    I hope you are well Peckerman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    My position has always been about the rule of law, and the Trump stuff only exists inside your head
    Up until 3-4 years ago you had the position that Trump was a useful idiot for the neo-Nazi, white-supremacist social media manipulators that you support (as by extension did LOM and Roger Blue etc).

    Then you spent 3-4 years giving Donald J Trump 100% sycophantic backing for any and every grotesque position he decided to adopt,

    In the last few months, when it has become more likely that Trump is heading for electoral defeat in November you have reverted to presenting Trump as a useful idiot for the neo-Nazi, white-supremacist social media manipulators that you support (as by extension did LOM and Roger Blue etc).

    I think that covers it!

    The 'rule of law' never came into it - other than to trash the whole concept!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Up until 3-4 years ago you had the position that Trump was a useful idiot for the neo-Nazi, white-supremacist social media manipulators that you support (as by extension did LOM and Roger Blue etc).

    Then you spent 3-4 years giving Donald J Trump 100% sycophantic backing for any and every grotesque position he decided to adopt,

    In the last few months, when it has become more likely that Trump is heading for electoral defeat in November you have reverted to presenting Trump as a useful idiot for the neo-Nazi, white-supremacist social media manipulators that you support (as by extension did LOM and Roger Blue etc).

    I think that covers it!

    The 'rule of law' never came into it - other than to trash the whole concept!
    Haha, I only started following the US election a few months before polling day, around the time of the Hilary debates. I hardly knew who he was before that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    If anyone was daft enough to read through the whole of this thread, they would see that there are a very small minority of posters who have instinctively backed Donald Trump no matter what . Of course, there is one person who stands out more than anyone else when it comes to this, but you, despite the occasional statement about how little time you have for him, have always fallen in behind him when it comes to expressing an opinion on the President.
    Even Gluey is showing signs of deserting Trump in recent weeks - I remember not so long ago there being general bemusement that a page had been filled in this thread without a contribution from him, now it happens fairly often. I always think of you as more of Gluey cheerleader than a Trump one despite you unfailingly lining up against those of us who are, nearly always, critical of the President.
    Apparently, having the temerity to be critical of President Trump on here is akin to "being in North Korea". Have a look at this link
    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
    and you'll see that out of over 800 Trump statements, 84% of them are deemed to be, at best, half true. Now look at this link
    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/
    and go to almost any of the people listed, including Republicans, and you'll see that they are considered to be more truthful than Trump by this respected fact checking site. You mention North Korea, well, when you consider his flagrant disregard for the truth, his insatiable ego and his entirely self serving motivation, the man in charge of the USA ("the land of the free") seems far more suited to a country with the sort of reputation North Korea has.
    No one backs Trump that I know off , I hate the man , your confusing the issues of doing the right thing , and it appears however horrible the man is the other side are not angels and capable of criminal actions .deception death in foreign lands , one has to ask why Hilary Clinton was not elected and Trump was, as it doesn't make sense the electorate took that decision or was it a case of the devils we know and choosing one ? Now that may change in 90 days , you only need to look closer to home where traditional Labour heartlands put two fingers up to the Corbyn era , and incredibly voted in a loon dej vu , by me pointing out this does not make me a Trump or Boris fan or right wing ,netiehr does it where Labour voters changed their vote pattern .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    No one backs Trump that I know off , I hate the man , your confusing the issues of doing the right thing , and it appears however horrible the man is the other side are not angels and capable of criminal actions .deception death in foreign lands , one has to ask why Hilary Clinton was not elected and Trump was, as it doesn't make sense the electorate took that decision or was it a case of the devils we know and choosing one ? Now that may change in 90 days , you only need to look closer to home where traditional Labour heartlands put two fingers up to the Corbyn era , and incredibly voted in a loon dej vu , by me pointing out this does not make me a Trump or Boris fan or right wing ,netiehr does it where Labour voters changed their vote pattern .
    Clinton won the popular vote and it was the electoral college system that was responsible for putting Trump in the Whitehouse. Similarly, Gore won the popular vote in 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    No one backs Trump that I know off , I hate the man , your confusing the issues of doing the right thing , and it appears however horrible the man is the other side are not angels and capable of criminal actions .deception death in foreign lands , one has to ask why Hilary Clinton was not elected and Trump was, as it doesn't make sense the electorate took that decision or was it a case of the devils we know and choosing one ? Now that may change in 90 days , you only need to look closer to home where traditional Labour heartlands put two fingers up to the Corbyn era , and incredibly voted in a loon dej vu , by me pointing out this does not make me a Trump or Boris fan or right wing ,netiehr does it where Labour voters changed their vote pattern .
    You and Gluey come over very defensive when someone labels you right wing don't you - maybe you both genuinely believe you aren't? If that is the case, I would advise that you both look at virtually any thread on the politics board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You and Gluey come over very defensive when someone labels you right wing don't you - maybe you both genuinely believe you aren't? If that is the case, I would advise that you both look at virtually any thread on the politics board.
    I'll always be on the fence until something happens, for all we know Trump could be secretely working with the democrats!

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