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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You are witnessing the takedown of the Deep State, great innit? Unless of course you are a lover of corrupt anti-democracy scumbags, hey comrade?
    Steve Bannon - the alt-right Svengali and brains behind Trumps presidential campaign - and most responsible for inventing and perpetrating the idea of the 'deep state' has been rubbishing it again:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...spiracy-theory

    Senior White House adviser Stephen Miller recently claimed the impeachment inquiry imperilling Donald Trump’s presidency was a product of the “deep state”, a conspiracy theory which holds that a permanent government of civil servants and security operatives exists to thwart the will of the people.

    But according to Steve Bannon, Trump’s former 2016 campaign chair and White House strategist, a prime mover in the formation and propagation of the Deep State conspiracy theory, it should not be taken seriously.

    Bannon states his opinion in a new book, Deep State: Trump, the FBI and the Rule of Law by James B Stewart, which will be published on 8 October. The Guardian obtained a copy.

    The “deep state conspiracy theory is for nut cases”, Bannon is quoted as saying, because “America isn’t Turkey or Egypt”.

    There is a formidable government bureaucracy in the US, he adds, but “there’s nothing ‘deep’ about it. It’s right in your face.”

    Another comment from Bannon on the 'Deep State':

    “You do realise that none of this is true.”

    See what happens when you carry on reading from old scripts?

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Steve Bannon - the alt-right Svengali and brains behind Trumps presidential campaign - and most responsible for inventing and perpetrating the idea of the 'deep state' has been rubbishing it again:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...spiracy-theory

    Senior White House adviser Stephen Miller recently claimed the impeachment inquiry imperilling Donald Trump’s presidency was a product of the “deep state”, a conspiracy theory which holds that a permanent government of civil servants and security operatives exists to thwart the will of the people.

    But according to Steve Bannon, Trump’s former 2016 campaign chair and White House strategist, a prime mover in the formation and propagation of the Deep State conspiracy theory, it should not be taken seriously.

    Bannon states his opinion in a new book, Deep State: Trump, the FBI and the Rule of Law by James B Stewart, which will be published on 8 October. The Guardian obtained a copy.

    The “deep state conspiracy theory is for nut cases”, Bannon is quoted as saying, because “America isn’t Turkey or Egypt”.

    There is a formidable government bureaucracy in the US, he adds, but “there’s nothing ‘deep’ about it. It’s right in your face.”

    Another comment from Bannon on the 'Deep State':

    “You do realise that none of this is true.”

    See what happens when you carry on reading from old scripts?
    I guess "shallow state" wouldn't have the same impact on nut cases though.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I guess "shallow state" wouldn't have the same impact on nut cases though.
    I see you are still in the game, you just can't give it up can you Mr Trump Russia Collusion propaganda loon!

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Steve Bannon - the alt-right Svengali and brains behind Trumps presidential campaign - and most responsible for inventing and perpetrating the idea of the 'deep state' has been rubbishing it again:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...spiracy-theory

    Senior White House adviser Stephen Miller recently claimed the impeachment inquiry imperilling Donald Trump’s presidency was a product of the “deep state”, a conspiracy theory which holds that a permanent government of civil servants and security operatives exists to thwart the will of the people.

    But according to Steve Bannon, Trump’s former 2016 campaign chair and White House strategist, a prime mover in the formation and propagation of the Deep State conspiracy theory, it should not be taken seriously.

    Bannon states his opinion in a new book, Deep State: Trump, the FBI and the Rule of Law by James B Stewart, which will be published on 8 October. The Guardian obtained a copy.

    The “deep state conspiracy theory is for nut cases”, Bannon is quoted as saying, because “America isn’t Turkey or Egypt”.

    There is a formidable government bureaucracy in the US, he adds, but “there’s nothing ‘deep’ about it. It’s right in your face.”

    Another comment from Bannon on the 'Deep State':

    “You do realise that none of this is true.”

    See what happens when you carry on reading from old scripts?

    The US Attorney General is acting as the President's lawyer, the White House is hiding incriminating phone calls on secret servers, getting the NOAA to alter weather reports so Trump isn't embarrassed by being wrong - the list goes on and this bozo is still on about the Deep State

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Steve Bannon - the alt-right Svengali and brains behind Trumps presidential campaign - and most responsible for inventing and perpetrating the idea of the 'deep state' has been rubbishing it again:

    See what happens when you carry on reading from old scripts?
    What the hell is Barr investigating then? You do realise that Downer went through a back channel at the US Embassy, thereby bypassing official protocol which the Aussie PM says was very unusual. And that is how Operation Crossfire Hurricane started, in secret via a small group of collaborators.

    "A deep state (from Turkish: derin devlet), also known as a state within a state, is a form of clandestine government made up of hidden or covert networks of power operating independently of a state's political leadership, in pursuit of their own agenda and goals. Examples include organs of state, such as the armed forces or public authorities (intelligence agencies, police, secret police, administrative agencies, and government bureaucracy). A deep state can also take the form of entrenched, career civil servants acting in a non-conspiratorial manner, to further their own interests. The intent of a deep state can include continuity of the state itself, job security for its members, enhanced power and authority, and the pursuit of ideological objectives. It can operate in opposition to the agenda of elected officials, by obstructing, resisting, and subverting their policies, conditions and directives. It can also take the form of government-owned corporations or private companies that act independently of regulatory or governmental control."

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