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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It did cross my mind, as it would end up with the Democrats having to beg Trump for an alternative solution to Obamacare if the prices spiraled out control. So I don't think he is overly concerned with this decision, as the current system is going to implode sooner or later anyway, and he will be proved right again
    Why would the democrats beg? It's happening on the Republican watch. I'm sure they'd blame the democrats, but beg?

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    Why would the democrats beg? It's happening on the Republican watch. I'm sure they'd blame the democrats, but beg?
    Well actually it would be the voters who will be paying for higher medical bills and the Democrats will be blamed for bringing in Obamacare, so they will be taking all the flack while Trump will say he tried to fix it but they opposed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Well actually it would be the voters who will be paying for higher medical bills and the Democrats will be blamed for bringing in Obamacare, so they will be taking all the flack while Trump will say he tried to fix it but they opposed him.
    Republicans opposed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Republicans opposed him.
    Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.
    It doesn't matter what the Democrats think, the Republicans control everything. You've made an impressive list of excuses and Trump won't be taking the blame (he's already started shoving Ryan under the bus) but this goes down as another Trump defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.
    Being the opposing party the role of the Democrats is to get him out of office.
    Not really surprising.

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    Until Obamacare came into effect being forced into purchasing healthcare insurance was an alien concept for Americans. The new paradigm is they still must be required to have insurance but with different rules. Originally the Republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare, then they switched to reform or replace so that big pharma and insurance companies would remain quids in whilst denying the right of anyone not to have insurance for their own health without being penalised in the form of fines. The US used to be all about individualism but has gradually become more collectivist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It doesn't matter what the Democrats think, the Republicans control everything. You've made an impressive list of excuses and Trump won't be taking the blame (he's already started shoving Ryan under the bus) but this goes down as another Trump defeat.
    It's hard to explain to those who view the MSM as some kind of bible, so you will just have to wait for the story to unfold in it's own good time. It's well known what role Ryan is playing and who he answers to. Let's just say it's all very murky

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Being the opposing party the role of the Democrats is to get him out of office.
    Not really surprising.
    Legally I hope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's hard to explain to those who view the MSM as some kind of bible, so you will just have to wait for the story to unfold in it's own good time. It's well known what role Ryan is playing and who he answers to. Let's just say it's all very murky
    Ah, that textbook Gluey 'nothing' answer. Never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ah, that textbook Gluey 'nothing' answer. Never change
    Just keep your eyes on the trafficking investigation, 7th Floor/State Department, Congress hacking, etc. It should satisfy your curiosity eventually, if there aren't any JFK moments of course

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    The plot thickens .. breaking news

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/27/po...-donald-trump/

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    Schumer urges removal of House intel panel chair Nunes

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/schum...air-nunes.html

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    Well if this stuff is going to happen, they had better step it up.

    The Donald looks very dour of late.
    Stories (relating to Flynn) beginning to surface regards possible impeachment - or stepping down 'in light' of supposed revelations that may arise.
    All if's and but's of course.

    Which might occur first?
    Trump draining the swamp, or Trump getting swamped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Well if this stuff is going to happen, they had better step it up.

    The Donald looks very dour of late.
    Stories (relating to Flynn) beginning to surface regards possible impeachment - or stepping down 'in light' of supposed revelations that may arise.
    All if's and but's of course.

    Which might occur first?
    Trump draining the swamp, or Trump getting swamped?
    He brought his own swamp with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Well if this stuff is going to happen, they had better step it up.

    The Donald looks very dour of late.
    Stories (relating to Flynn) beginning to surface regards possible impeachment - or stepping down 'in light' of supposed revelations that may arise.
    All if's and but's of course.

    Which might occur first?
    Trump draining the swamp, or Trump getting swamped?
    He may not survive unless he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. Nobody can take on the establishment and win, they own the rules of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    He may not survive unless he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. Nobody can take on the establishment and win, they own the rules of the game.
    I hope none of that relates to increasingly yeee-haaw sabre rattling at N Korea (to 'win big')?

    He is coming across as beleaguered and history tells us that is what beleaguered Leaders seem to like to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    I hope none of that relates to increasingly yeee-haaw sabre rattling at N Korea (to 'win big')?

    He is coming across as beleaguered and history tells us that is what beleaguered Leaders seem to like to do.
    The latest ...

    Sources: Trump, associates surveilled for up to year

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5383235023001/
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 03-04-17 at 18:49.

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    Sources tell Fox: Rice requested to unmask Trump associates

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5383601455001/

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    Iran stopped selling its oil for US dollars on March 21. That propelled them to the top of the to-be-smashed list. North Korea is patently a vassal Chinese state. China would never allow that buffer to be removed from their border.

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