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Thread: The Donald Trump thread

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    In other Trump news, he made $1.6bn in revenue and income whilst President - a large part of it by corruptly misusing the office!

    https://www.citizensforethics.org/re...ile-president/

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    In actual trump news, the supreme court (HIS supreme court!) has permitted New York to look at his tax returns.

    He's not happy about it, and why should he be? That's how they got Capone.
    Next... Syphillis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Next... Syphillis!
    hopefully

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Mozzer, out of interest what's your view on the US rejoining the Paris climate agreement? In favour of against?

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    TBH lardy a topic that has passed me by . It will be something I will look at in more detail before I add any worthwhile value to the topic .

    anyway onto more pressing matters an interesting piece here from Russell Brand regarding Trump and the media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbmAetjnV44

    does Trump need the mainstream media or does the mainstream media need Trump ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    TBH lardy a topic that has passed me by . It will be something I will look at in more detail before I add any worthwhile value to the topic .

    anyway onto more pressing matters an interesting piece here from Russell Brand regarding Trump and the media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbmAetjnV44

    does Trump need the mainstream media or does the mainstream media need Trump ?
    Yeah it's just a minor thing really. Still...

    A few days ago you posted a link to Kevin McCarthy saying that Biden had wiped out a million jobs with one signature, which you seemed to think meant that one million more Americans had just become unemployed. Unless you know better, I'd suggest he was referring to the US rejoining the Paris agreement and potential jobs not being created. Ignoring that green energy would also create jobs that otherwise wouldn't exist, of course, so it's not a net figure.

    Anyway, I'll take a better global environment over some dirty manufacturing jobs in the US.

  7. #8467
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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    TBH lardy a topic that has passed me by . It will be something I will look at in more detail before I add any worthwhile value to the topic .

    anyway onto more pressing matters an interesting piece here from Russell Brand regarding Trump and the media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbmAetjnV44

    does Trump need the mainstream media or does the mainstream media need Trump ?
    No chance of that happening. You haven't added any worthwhile value to any of the topics you've discussed.

    You're just parroting alt-right websites and YouTube channels.

    Free thinkers of the world unite, eh?

  8. #8468

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    No chance of that happening. You haven't added any worthwhile value to any of the topics you've discussed.

    You're just parroting alt-right websites and YouTube channels.

    Free thinkers of the world unite, eh?
    Oi, he put alink up to Russell Brand being Clever in the most moronic way possible When you reach Russell Brand Vids on Youtube in order for clarity, then you know the game is over.

  9. #8469

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Oi, he put alink up to Russell Brand being Clever in the most moronic way possible When you reach Russell Brand Vids on Youtube in order for clarity, then you know the game is over.
    18 minutes long

    Do people really watch these things all the way through?

  10. #8470

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yeah it's just a minor thing really. Still...

    A few days ago you posted a link to Kevin McCarthy saying that Biden had wiped out a million jobs with one signature, which you seemed to think meant that one million more Americans had just become unemployed. Unless you know better, I'd suggest he was referring to the US rejoining the Paris agreement and potential jobs not being created. Ignoring that green energy would also create jobs that otherwise wouldn't exist, of course, so it's not a net figure.

    Anyway, I'll take a better global environment over some dirty manufacturing jobs in the US.
    i knew where you were heading with this one but this whole topic is littered with so many stats and the main leaders of the world play lip service to this agreement but the biggest winner of all is china gaining them a monumental manufacturing advantage in the short and medium term .

    This topic should really be on a main topic thread . China wins wins wins again and you wonder why the orange man stood his ground

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6A79YN7Kvk

    all for green energy and a cleaner environment but let it be on an even keel please . Green energy is creating thousands of jobs as you say and I should know as i,m working on a green and renewable energy project now !

  11. #8471

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    i knew where you were heading with this one but this whole topic is littered with so many stats and the main leaders of the world play lip service to this agreement but the biggest winner of all is china gaining them a monumental manufacturing advantage in the short and medium term .

    This topic should really be on a main topic thread . China wins wins wins again and you wonder why the orange man stood his ground

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6A79YN7Kvk

    all for green energy and a cleaner environment but let it be on an even keel please . Green energy is creating thousands of jobs as you say and I should know as i,m working on a green and renewable energy project now !
    'Knew where you were heading'

    Lol - you posted the McCarthy quote to begin with without understanding what he was talking about!

    As for an even keel - what is the Paris Agreement if not an attempt to make it on an even keel?

  12. #8472

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    i knew where you were heading with this one but this whole topic is littered with so many stats and the main leaders of the world play lip service to this agreement but the biggest winner of all is china gaining them a monumental manufacturing advantage in the short and medium term .

    This topic should really be on a main topic thread . China wins wins wins again and you wonder why the orange man stood his ground

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6A79YN7Kvk

    all for green energy and a cleaner environment but let it be on an even keel please . Green energy is creating thousands of jobs as you say and I should know as i,m working on a green and renewable energy project now !
    Perhaps Trump did bring the China debate to the fore , unlike Obama perhaps it provide Biden with a different and helpful trajectory ,

    Whoever is in the White House issues like 5g , human rights , environment , democracy , freedom , USA manufacturing job loss because of China's growth still live, privately the Biden administration may thank Trump for being a loud mouth over certain issues .

    Also Its known within Biden's camp they not best pleased with Europe's deal with them whilst certain human rights and environment issues still remain ,the same with Germany's gas pipeline deal with Russia at the expanse of other matters , its not a complete Biden USA / Europe /China love in .

    Some good reading :

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/w...eal-biden.html


    https://www.cleanenergywire.org/fact...-splits-europe

  13. #8473

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    back on topic again looks like they want trump to run again in 2024

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYkdMu-Stzg

    talking of stats i see job wrecking Biden approval ratings which reached the dizzy heights of 53 % on Feb 16'th has now gone down to 49%

    for an incoming president is pretty bad especially in his honeymoon period

  14. #8474

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    back on topic again looks like they want trump to run again in 2024

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYkdMu-Stzg

    talking of stats i see job wrecking Biden approval ratings which reached the dizzy heights of 53 % on Feb 16'th has now gone down to 49%

    for an incoming president is pretty bad especially in his honeymoon period
    If you cherry pick the results.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...proval-rating/

    I'm not saying you cherry picked, mozzer. There's no way you research stuff yourself. We know that. But whatever your source was cherry picks.

  15. #8475

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    right on cue Lardy fair play

    so whats your take on your mans 1.9 trillion dollar covid relief package with only 9% going to covid ?

  16. #8476

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    right on cue Lardy fair play

    so whats your take on your mans 1.9 trillion dollar covid relief package with only 9% going to covid ?
    TBH mozzer a topic that has passed me by . It will be something I will look at in more detail before I add any worthwhile value to the topic .

  17. #8477

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    lol . maybe this will help you with your judgement

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOo-epjYQuE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCEmC5l23U

    could put up another 20 pages regarding this . take your time

  18. #8478

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    lol . maybe this will help you with your judgement

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOo-epjYQuE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pCEmC5l23U

    could put up another 20 pages regarding this . take your time
    Go for it. I'm not really interested in discussing American domestic policy, same was true for the last four years, but if you think you can get a conversation out of it with someone then don't let me stop you.

  19. #8479

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    shame i thought your were a heavy weight in terms of american politics in that case I will leave it to cyril and Heidensberg to trip me up . my other half gives me more grief over trump than you lot ever will she can't stand him either -lol

    then again i,m perceived a poundsland rogersblue so very little competition to be had here then

  20. #8480

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    If you cherry pick the results.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...proval-rating/

    I'm not saying you cherry picked, mozzer. There's no way you research stuff yourself. We know that. But whatever your source was cherry picks.
    So if I understand this correctly the fivethirtyeights does an aggregation of all the polls including the Rasmussen one which Mozz quoted. The comparative polls with other Presidents down that page monitors approval to date and across the Presidential terms. In that Biden has 11% greater approval in his honeymoon period than Trump at this point. Indeed over the four years of Trump's Presidency he never got above 50%.Then again he did lose the election so that would fit.

    If 54% approval at this point is pretty bad you have to wonder what Mozz would call the 43% that Trump stood at. Either a triumph or fake news given previous form would be my guess.

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