Jokanovic

[jamieccfc]

Someone mentioned him the other day and the more I think about it the more I think he would be an ideal replacement for Warnock next season, he knows how to get promoted from the championship and gets his team playing good football, now I don't know why but I had a good feeling about Bellamy being next manager but with what's going on I think that ship may have sailed, I think the club need to start looking at a longer term plan and not the easy short route we'll have a good couple of years of parachute payments to keep us ticking over to rebuild this current squad and start getting a decent infrastructure within the club preferably starting with the academy I know it's not cheap but in the end I believe it would pay for itself if we had the highest cat actually bringing in decent kids who would be the future of the club, another is the scouting system there's many gems abroad for next to no money but you need to put the time and effort in look at the lad at Norwich pukki picked up for next to nothing scored 24/25 goals roofe at Leeds is another example you don't need to break the bank to find decent players, looking at our current side it worries me how much of a revamp it needs the back four probably needs a total overhaul we'll have no midfield and we're desperate for a striker. I think it's in the best interest of us and Warnock himself to start afresh next season imho

[Shute]

I think we should wait until the end of the season because we don't know which division we'll be in.

[DubaiDai]

I think we should wait until the end of the season because we don't know which division we'll be in.

I don't think it matters that much. I know that financially, it is important for the club to be in the Premiership, but my concern is we will probably struggle even more than this season.
I agree with Jamie, the side needs a vast overhaul and doing that while in the championship would be far easier

[Bald Barry Bastad]

I would love to see him here.

[billy.ronson]

I would love to see him here.

Seeing the dramatic changes at Fulham at start of season , I wonder how many signings in the summer were his i? and was there outside interference with picking the team at Fulham ? I know they had used the loan market to get promoted but had a bigger budget than us and seemed to focus on “star” signings like Schurrle and Seri when they didn’t need midfield players.

Defensively, they looked a shambles but continued to under Ranieri .

[the other bob wilson]

Seeing the dramatic changes at Fulham at start of season , I wonder how many signings in the summer were his i? and was there outside interference with picking the team at Fulham ? I know they had used the loan market to get promoted but had a bigger budget than us and seemed to focus on “star” signings like Schurrle and Seri when they didn’t need midfield players.

Defensively, they looked a shambles but continued to under Ranieri .

I find it incredible that Fulham seemed to put more of a priority on signing fading forward players like Babbel and Markovic in January than they did on shoring up their defence.

As for Jokanovic, i like the idea of bringing in someone like him, but, truthfully, how many of the current squad would he look at on his first day in the job and think "he could be part of a Cardiff team I can create which could end up playing like Watford and Fulham did to get promoted when I was in charge"? I believe we will need a big turnaround in the playing staff this summer, but it would have to be absolutely huge if you look at how we play now and the way Jokanovic would want us to play.

[Jeff Mansfield]

Seeing the dramatic changes at Fulham at start of season , I wonder how many signings in the summer were his i? and was there outside interference with picking the team at Fulham ? I know they had used the loan market to get promoted but had a bigger budget than us and seemed to focus on “star” signings like Schurrle and Seri when they didn’t need midfield players.

Defensively, they looked a shambles but continued to under Ranieri .

The owner's son, Tony Khan, is the Director of Football there. Talksport radio have raised this point a few times, saying Joka didn't want all those new players disrupting his setup but was over-ruled. If NW steps down I'd like to see Joka here, but there's so many other unknowns that it just doesn't seem a priority for now.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

I find it incredible that Fulham seemed to put more of a priority on signing fading forward players like Babbel and Markovic in January than they did on shoring up their defence.

As for Jokanovic, i like the idea of bringing in someone like him, but, truthfully, how many of the current squad would he look at on his first day in the job and think "he could be part of a Cardiff team I can create which could end up playing like Watford and Fulham did to get promoted when I was in charge"? I believe we will need a big turnaround in the playing staff this summer, but it would have to be absolutely huge if you look at how we play now and the way Jokanovic would want us to play.

Agreed. A lot of the current team would not figure in his plans. But he would have the summer to get a few in and I'd like to think he'd give some of our youth a chance. Now that's a journey I would buy into.

[dml1954]

No thanks. He speaks poor English, so cant communicate easily with his players and is very undemonstrative on the touchline - just stands with his arms folded i.e. no passion. His teams pass the ball to death, back and forth across the pitch with little penetration. He was also responsible for putting players like Odoi in the team - one of the poorest defenders I have ever seen. He fell lucky because players like Cairney, Sessignon etc were already at the club when he took over. Also, because the owner threw money at it like confetti, he was able to bring in who he wanted, leaving them in the position now where, when they go down, they will be in serious financial trouble, having spent considerably more than they earned. Most of the players he signed last summer arent good enough either, so he wasted vast sums of money. Fulham fans dont exactly appear in a rush to have him back either and that is very telling.

[NYCBlue]

No thanks. He speaks poor English, so cant communicate easily with his players and is very undemonstrative on the touchline - just stands with his arms folded i.e. no passion. His teams pass the ball to death, back and forth across the pitch with little penetration. He was also responsible for putting players like Odoi in the team - one of the poorest defenders I have ever seen. He fell lucky because players like Cairney, Sessignon etc were already at the club when he took over. Also, because the owner threw money at it like confetti, he was able to bring in who he wanted, leaving them in the position now where, when they go down, they will be in serious financial trouble, having spent considerably more than they earned. Most of the players he signed last summer arent good enough either, so he wasted vast sums of money. Fulham fans dont exactly appear in a rush to have him back either and that is very telling.

WOW! Xenophobic much?

[dml1954]

WOW! Xenophobic much?

Its a fact, not Xenophobic. How about posting your own opinion on the topic instead of just having a go at me - again.

[jamieccfc]

No thanks. He speaks poor English, so cant communicate easily with his players and is very undemonstrative on the touchline - just stands with his arms folded i.e. no passion. His teams pass the ball to death, back and forth across the pitch with little penetration. He was also responsible for putting players like Odoi in the team - one of the poorest defenders I have ever seen. He fell lucky because players like Cairney, Sessignon etc were already at the club when he took over. Also, because the owner threw money at it like confetti, he was able to bring in who he wanted, leaving them in the position now where, when they go down, they will be in serious financial trouble, having spent considerably more than they earned. Most of the players he signed last summer arent good enough either, so he wasted vast sums of money. Fulham fans dont exactly appear in a rush to have him back either and that is very telling.

Really? He has 2 promotions under his belt and it has been heavily publicised that Kahn’s son had been making the signings

[Rjk]

Yes please, would need a season or two grace as I'm not sure we have the squad to do what he wants.

Heard a rumour that most of the premier league signings were forced upon him,

[Llandaff Blue]

No thanks. He speaks poor English, so cant communicate easily with his players and is very undemonstrative on the touchline - just stands with his arms folded i.e. no passion. His teams pass the ball to death, back and forth across the pitch with little penetration. He was also responsible for putting players like Odoi in the team - one of the poorest defenders I have ever seen. He fell lucky because players like Cairney, Sessignon etc were already at the club when he took over. Also, because the owner threw money at it like confetti, he was able to bring in who he wanted, leaving them in the position now where, when they go down, they will be in serious financial trouble, having spent considerably more than they earned. Most of the players he signed last summer arent good enough either, so he wasted vast sums of money. Fulham fans dont exactly appear in a rush to have him back either and that is very telling.

His English is so bad he managed to get two teams promoted to the PL. He’s so passionless he got two teams promoted. His style is so bad he got two teams promoted. Do I need to go on?

He didn’t make signings at Fulham, that’s Shahid Khan’s son Tony Khan who is head of recruitment there.

He brought through Sessengon and trusted him at a very young age, it’s not as if he was established when he joined. Giving youth players a chance is something we haven’t done in years.

He’s the type of manager we should be targeting long term when Warnock has gone.

[Rjk]

His English is so bad he managed to get two teams promoted to the PL. He’s so passionless he got two teams promoted. His style is so bad he got two teams promoted. Do I need to go on?

He didn’t make signings at Fulham, that’s Shahid Khan’s son Tony Khan who is head of recruitment there.

He brought through Sessengon and trusted him at a very young age, it’s not as if he was established when he joined. Giving youth players a chance is something we haven’t done in years.

He’s the type of manager we should be targeting long term when Warnock has gone.

But he speaks funny and doesn't wave his arms about enough

[Taunton Blue Genie]

But he speaks funny and doesn't wave his arms about enough

[Des Parrot]

But he speaks funny and doesn't wave his arms about enough

Who Warnock?

[Gnojek]

His English is so bad he managed to get two teams promoted to the PL. He’s so passionless he got two teams promoted. His style is so bad he got two teams promoted. Do I need to go on?

He didn’t make signings at Fulham, that’s Shahid Khan’s son Tony Khan who is head of recruitment there.

He brought through Sessengon and trusted him at a very young age, it’s not as if he was established when he joined. Giving youth players a chance is something we haven’t done in years.

He’s the type of manager we should be targeting long term when Warnock has gone.

I was halfway through typing a similar response, when I saw your reply. Brilliant answer to a dumb post.

[dml1954]

I was halfway through typing a similar response, when I saw your reply. Brilliant answer to a dumb post.

Just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean its dumb. I am entitled to my opinion.

[Gnojek]

Just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean its dumb. I am entitled to my opinion.

When it comes to opinions and Slavisa Jokanovic, I'd rather listen to an informed one, such our Fulham friend on here, than yours. I don't think I'm the only one either.

[dml1954]

His English is so bad he managed to get two teams promoted to the PL. He’s so passionless he got two teams promoted. His style is so bad he got two teams promoted. Do I need to go on?

He didn’t make signings at Fulham, that’s Shahid Khan’s son Tony Khan who is head of recruitment there.

He brought through Sessengon and trusted him at a very young age, it’s not as if he was established when he joined. Giving youth players a chance is something we haven’t done in years.

He’s the type of manager we should be targeting long term when Warnock has gone.

He got two teams promoted and then was sacked by both shortly afterwards. He failed to get over £100m of talent to gel as a team. Whenever we have had a manager who stands passionless on the sidelines with his arms crossed (Dave Jones Etc), there has been many complaints from fans about lack of passion. We can only give youth players a chance if they are good enough in the first place to get into the first team.

[Llandaff Blue]

He got two teams promoted and then was sacked by both shortly afterwards. He failed to get over £100m of talent to gel as a team. Whenever we have had a manager who stands passionless on the sidelines with his arms crossed (Dave Jones Etc), there has been many complaints from fans about lack of passion. We can only give youth players a chance if they are good enough in the first place to get into the first team.

Watford got rid because he asked for too much money, do some basic research and you'll see that. It's hard to get players to gel as a team when you make so many signings to replace loan players, with the signings not even being made by the manager himself, what do you expect?

Give over, who cares about a lack of pushun, it isn't the 80s anymore.

Playing the poster again instead of staying on the topic I see. I posted my opinion. All you do is have a go at people who's opinions differ from your own.

I did stay on topic, you even responded to the post If you want to reply to my point about Bielsa at Leeds then carry on otherwise I'm going to cry about you going off topic

If that's all I do is have a go at people then report me and get me banned. Stop crying because you're getting called out for your weird comment about not wanting a manager for his lack of English despite success in the English leagues

[surge]

Watford got rid because he asked for too much money, do some basic research and you'll see that. It's hard to get players to gel as a team when you make so many signings to replace loan players, with the signings not even being made by the manager himself, what do you expect?

Give over, who cares about a lack of pushun, it isn't the 80s anymore.



I did stay on topic, you even responded to the post If you want to reply to my point about Bielsa at Leeds then carry on otherwise I'm going to cry about you going off topic

If that's all I do is have a go at people then report me and get me banned. Stop crying because you're getting called out for your weird comment about not wanting a manager for his lack of English despite success in the English leagues

Not sure how much difference there is between Watford didn't think he was the man for the premier league and Watford didn't think he was the man for the premier league on the wages he was asking for, especially when you have a budget the size of ours. If they felt he was best placed to keep Watford up then surely the wages would have been met?

While our one Fulham fan on here seems to be in favour of Jokanovic, and while I can't say it's representative of all Fulham fans, the Fulhamish podcast seemed to suggest that as regrettable as it was it was time for Jokanovic to go. Would have to go back and check but you don't say it's time for the manager to go if the only problem is that the owner has bought in players he doesn't want. In that case you get annoyed with the owner. I seem to remember one reason being that there was very little logic that could be followed in picking his first team which included personal and formation.

We're just over two years past Slade's days as a manager here. I reckon people will say it's been better under Warnock and therefore pashun counts for something. We're a club where fans remember the times we had a "leader" as a manager perhaps more fondly than when we were playing great football.

[Llandaff Blue]

Not sure how much difference there is between Watford didn't think he was the man for the premier league and Watford didn't think he was the man for the premier league on the wages he was asking for, especially when you have a budget the size of ours. If they felt he was best placed to keep Watford up then surely the wages would have been met?

While our one Fulham fan on here seems to be in favour of Jokanovic, and while I can't say it's representative of all Fulham fans, the Fulhamish podcast seemed to suggest that as regrettable as it was it was time for Jokanovic to go. Would have to go back and check but you don't say it's time for the manager to go if the only problem is that the owner has bought in players he doesn't want. In that case you get annoyed with the owner. I seem to remember one reason being that there was very little logic that could be followed in picking his first team which included personal and formation.

We're just over two years past Slade's days as a manager here. I reckon people will say it's been better under Warnock and therefore pashun counts for something. We're a club where fans remember the times we had a "leader" as a manager perhaps more fondly than when we were playing great football.

No-one knows why Watford didn't match his wages, could have been a multitude of reasons to be honest. It would have made sense to match them, but he could have been asking for silly amounts. In the end it's not really worth potentially jeopardising your club if the manager doesn't work out.

Oh I do agree he didn't do well enough this season, but I feel that's a result of the poor signings (not the only reason, but still big enough) They were crazy at our place, never will we have a more open game in the PL than against that lot.

Passion is measured in a lot more ways than flailing around on the touchline, Slade was unimaginative, no charisma or wit in his pressers and very uninspired football. Some of the football we played under Neil last year was fantastic, the Villa game comes to mind for one. There needs to be a balance, if Jokanovic managed us and we won most games while he stands bone idle on the touchline I won't give a toss, it's worked for both Fulham and Watford at that level before so that's why I criticised DML's stupid point about the passion he displays

[dml1954]

Watford got rid because he asked for too much money, do some basic research and you'll see that. It's hard to get players to gel as a team when you make so many signings to replace loan players, with the signings not even being made by the manager himself, what do you expect?

Give over, who cares about a lack of pushun, it isn't the 80s anymore.



I did stay on topic, you even responded to the post If you want to reply to my point about Bielsa at Leeds then carry on otherwise I'm going to cry about you going off topic

If that's all I do is have a go at people then report me and get me banned. Stop crying because you're getting called out for your weird comment about not wanting a manager for his lack of English despite success in the English leagues

Why would I report you ? Its enjoyable watching you make an idiot of yourself on a daily basis. You will eventually probably get yourself banned anyway on your own, for some of the crass things you say.