+ Visit Cardiff FC for Latest News, Transfer Gossip, Fixtures and Match Results
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 91

Thread: Black Goalkeeper's

  1. #1

    Black Goalkeeper's

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48147087

    Just seen this article, and it is a topic I have heard discussed before. It is strange, when black footballers make up a huge demographic of professional football, that there are so little goalkeepers.

    Is it social bias as the article suggests?
    Cultural?
    Or simply is it just an unexplained phenomenon that there are hardly any half decent black goalkeepers.

  2. #2

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48147087

    Just seen this article, and it is a topic I have heard discussed before. It is strange, when black footballers make up a huge demographic of professional football, that there are so little goalkeepers.

    Is it social bias as the article suggests?
    Cultural?
    Or simply is it just an unexplained phenomenon that there are hardly any half decent black goalkeepers.
    Same with swimming, great soul singers though.

  3. #3
    CardiffCitySince1927
    Guest

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Something to think about. Name 3 ball playing black midfielders. Apart from the world class, Paul Pogba, who could fill that role... who is there?

  4. #4

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffCitySince1927 View Post
    Something to think about. Name 3 ball playing black midfielders. Apart from the world class, Paul Pogba, who could fill that role... who is there?
    Jay Jay Okocha

  5. #5

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffCitySince1927 View Post
    Something to think about. Name 3 ball playing black midfielders. Apart from the world class, Paul Pogba, who could fill that role... who is there?
    Patrick Vieira was much more of a ball player than he was ever given credit for.
    Because of his stature (and perhaps his colour) people pigeon holed him as a destroyer but that really wasn't what he was about.
    John Barnes could play in that position once his pace went.
    Ruud gullit played in midfield sometimes and was pretty effective.
    Frank rijkard (so) as well although more defensive.
    Yaya toure
    There must have been a fair few Brazilians over the years

  6. #6

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffCitySince1927 View Post
    Something to think about. Name 3 ball playing black midfielders. Apart from the world class, Paul Pogba, who could fill that role... who is there?
    Carlton Palmer

  7. #7

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    The only current black keeper I can think of is the Ajax keeper

  8. #8

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48147087

    Just seen this article, and it is a topic I have heard discussed before. It is strange, when black footballers make up a huge demographic of professional football, that there are so little goalkeepers.

    Is it social bias as the article suggests?
    Cultural?
    Or simply is it just an unexplained phenomenon that there are hardly any half decent black goalkeepers.
    For many years Black players dominated wide positions, players with pace. It could be a few things, it could be that coaches who were predominantly white profiled young black players, paid more attention to the ones who were quick and direct. British black players don't seem to be as represented in central areas as they are in wide positions or attacking areas.

  9. #9

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Abedi Pele?

  10. #10

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48147087

    Just seen this article, and it is a topic I have heard discussed before. It is strange, when black footballers make up a huge demographic of professional football, that there are so little goalkeepers.

    Is it social bias as the article suggests?
    Cultural?
    Or simply is it just an unexplained phenomenon that there are hardly any half decent black goalkeepers.
    Alisson Becker is one.

  11. #11

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Patrick Vieira was much more of a ball player than he was ever given credit for.
    Because of his stature (and perhaps his colour) people pigeon holed him as a destroyer but that really wasn't what he was about.
    John Barnes could play in that position once his pace went.
    Ruud gullit played in midfield sometimes and was pretty effective.
    Frank rijkard (so) as well although more defensive.
    Yaya toure
    There must have been a fair few Brazilians over the years
    I think that we need to look closer to home, all of the players you mention were from other countries, it certainly seems to be an issue in the UK.

  12. #12

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I think that we need to look closer to home, all of the players you mention were from other countries, it certainly seems to be an issue in the UK.
    The example used by the person bringing it up was Paul Pogba, who is French.

  13. #13

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    David Rocastle. Baller,

  14. #14
    International
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Baku, Azerbaijan
    Posts
    9,111

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Jay Jay Okocha
    Kante? Plays midfield for Chelsea.

  15. #15

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Kante? Plays midfield for Chelsea.
    You can’t use French people now. The rules have been changed.

  16. #16

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Dele Alli

  17. #17

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Alex Oxlade Chamberlain

  18. #18
    International City123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    5,701

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Ethan Ampadu

  19. #19

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    The example used by the person bringing it up was Paul Pogba, who is French.
    Isn't he French? My point is that in the UK ( i know that the thread isn't about that exclusively) we do seem to have a disproportionate amount of fast forward thinking black footballers as opposed to black players who may be more defensive. There must be a reason for that. The point about black goalkeepers could well be valid, There have been countless brilliant Players with African ancestry, not so with goalkeepers.

  20. #20

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    The example used by the person bringing it up was Paul Pogba, who is French.
    Sorry, just saw that you added 'French' at the end of your post!

  21. #21

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Here's a few.

    Fabian Delph.
    Angel Gomez.
    Loftus-Cheek
    Sturridge.
    Walcot.
    Jake Livermore.

  22. #22

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Hope we haven't forgotten the great keeper, Shaka Hislop, who played for Newcastle, West Ham and Pompey in the Premiership.

  23. #23

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffCitySince1927 View Post
    Something to think about. Name 3 ball playing black midfielders. Apart from the world class, Paul Pogba, who could fill that role... who is there?
    Axel Witsel
    Corentin Tolisso
    Blaise Matuidi
    Youri Tielemans
    Gini Wijnaldum
    Fabinho (for Liverpool not Monaco)
    Tanguy Ndombele
    Fred?


    There's probably loads more depending on your definition of "ball playing".

  24. #24

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Hope we haven't forgotten the great keeper, Shaka Hislop, who played for Newcastle, West Ham and Pompey in the Premiership.
    Wolves recently had a black british goalkeeper, can't remember his name, and we had Warner. Remember Man City had a black goalkeeper, Alex Williams back in the eighties, i can remember some racist arseholes throwing bananas at him from the canton stand.

  25. #25

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Here's a few.

    Fabian Delph.
    Angel Gomez.
    Loftus-Cheek
    Sturridge.
    Walcot.
    Jake Livermore.
    In this thread you've named 6 random black players and a white goalie.

  26. #26

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Axel Witsel
    Corentin Tolisso
    Blaise Matuidi
    Youri Tielemans
    Gini Wijnaldum
    Fabinho (for Liverpool not Monaco)
    Tanguy Ndombele
    Fred?


    There's probably loads more depending on your definition of "ball playing".
    Not many from the UK though, although loads of wide players and plenty of attack minded players.

  27. #27

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Wolves recently had a black british goalkeeper, can't remember his name, and we had Warner. Remember Man City had a black goalkeeper, Alex Williams back in the eighties, i can remember some racist arseholes throwing bananas at him from the canton stand.
    Wolves had Matt Murray and Carl Ikeme recently (Ikeme played for Nigeria but was born in the UK).

  28. #28

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Wolves had Matt Murray and Carl Ikeme recently (Ikeme played for Nigeria but was born in the UK).
    That's the one, Cheers. I know that the thread isn't about the UK, although i think that the goalkeeper who spoke out in the original article was talking about European clubs not showing much faith in black goalkeepers, hence why i brought up development on these shores. I think that black players make up about 35% of all professionals in the UK, yet there seems to be a disproportionate amount of those players who play in a certain role.

  29. #29

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Wolves recently had a black british goalkeeper, can't remember his name, and we had Warner. Remember Man City had a black goalkeeper, Alex Williams back in the eighties, i can remember some racist arseholes throwing bananas at him from the canton stand.
    That famous “carrot crunching goalie” that was going to win them the league, David James

  30. #30

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    That famous “carrot crunching goalie” that was going to win them the league, David James
    How did i forget him

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •