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Thread: Black Goalkeeper's

  1. #61

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    You wouldnít, as there arenít any 😁
    Does the one from today count?

  2. #62

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Do you show your mum things you wrote on the internet? Me too! I like to print them out and get the family round the table on a Saturday evening to have a good old chuckle.

    They all say I'm really funny and clever.

  3. #63

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Most black players play up front so you can keep an eye on them!

  4. #64

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Tresederís Mam View Post
    Knew youíd get it mum. Roast beef on Sunday?

  5. #65

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Zowhore View Post
    Does the one from today count?
    Oh oh. The CCMB offended on behalf of others squad are getting their boots and lanterns ready !

  6. #66

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Oh oh. The CCMB offended on behalf of others squad are getting their boots and lanterns ready !
    Just stop.

  7. #67

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Oh oh. The CCMB offended on behalf of others squad are getting their boots and lanterns ready !
    Iím not black, Iím not personally offended, but I do understand that what you posted earlier was a racist quip.

  8. #68

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Zowhore View Post
    Iím not black, Iím not personally offended, but I do understand that what you posted earlier was a racist quip.
    Behave yourself and stop being so precious. Anyone remember the good Dr Lector who used to post on here? Heíd have made a quip like that with in the first half dozen replies on this thread, and he was as racist as Mother Theresa.
    This boards not what it used to be 🤔

  9. #69

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Behave yourself and stop being so precious. Anyone remember the good Dr Lector who used to post on here? He’d have made a quip like that with in the first half dozen replies on this thread, and he was as racist as Mother Theresa.
    This boards not what it used to be ��
    I don't get why you're so upset at being called out for a shite joke

  10. #70

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Oh oh. The CCMB offended on behalf of others squad are getting their boots and lanterns ready !
    No ones offended though, you posted a shite joke based on an outdated racist stereotype. No one is offended they just think youíre not funny.

  11. #71

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    No ones offended though, you posted a shite joke based on an outdated racist stereotype. No one is offended they just think youíre not funny.
    You need to 'lighten up', we all need to 'lighten up'

  12. #72

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Lighten up guys. My old mum will piss herself laughing when I show her this on the weekend. Sheís as black as Coal and my Dad was as white as Casper. If you canít have a laugh about yourself, then the game really is up.
    Black people cant be racist ofc...wait...is that racist?

  13. #73

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    No ones offended though, you posted a shite joke based on an outdated racist stereotype. No one is offended they just think youíre not funny.
    So your saying donít give up my day job?

  14. #74

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Just admit youíve made something up on here.
    There are no posts of mine anywhere that would make it fairly clear as you said, that Iím racist.
    You seem a bit offended. Lighten up!

  15. #75

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    With respect, Serena Williams and Tiger Woods are arguably the greatest at their respective sports the world has ever seen, it's not like they couldn't have them. A more representative indicator would be how many ordinary Black golfers and Tennis players there are, there are plenty of white ones.
    Lewis Hamilton could be the greatest his sport has ever seen .

    Some say Pele was also a great.

    I just like to consider them as great sporting individuals, not sure where skin colour plays a part really .

  16. #76

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Lewis Hamilton could be the greatest his sport has ever seen .

    Some say Pele was also a great.

    I just like to consider them as great sporting individuals, not sure where skin colour plays a part really .
    In the case of Tiger Woods, it plays a part because black people used to be banned from golf courses.

    I don't know if black people were ever banned from tennis clubs; I bet at times there have been big barriers to them joining, if not an official ban.

    These are sports where a bit of money traditionally used to be needed to start up, unlike rugby or football, say. And traditionally, in the US and Europe, black people generally had a lot less.

    So skin colour has loads to do with it. I bet it was a lot harder for Williams and Woods when they were young than their white peers - perhaps that's where the drive to win comes from.

  17. #77

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Lewis Hamilton could be the greatest his sport has ever seen .

    Some say Pele was also a great.

    I just like to consider them as great sporting individuals, not sure where skin colour plays a part really .
    Skin colour is brought up due to the increased barriers to participation black people face in most sports.

  18. #78

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Skin colour is brought up due to the increased barriers to participation black people face in most sports.
    The fact people refer to others as ďblackĒ proves we havenít moved on very much. We are all just people.

  19. #79

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    The fact people refer to others as ďblackĒ proves we havenít moved on very much. We are all just people.
    This is a better joke than your first one Iíll give you that

  20. #80

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    The fact people refer to others as “black” proves we haven’t moved on very much. We are all just people.
    Yes indeed, with the exception of your mum who is "black as Coal"

  21. #81

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes indeed, with the exception of your mum who is "black as Coal"
    Iím still waiting for you to show me any evidence from other threads where it makes it ďfairly clearĒ that Iím a racist. You seem to have enough time to keep chipping into this thread, but not enough to back up your statement. Maybe you made that bit up 🤔

  22. #82
    CardiffCitySince1927
    Guest

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Jay Jay Okocha
    Wouldíve had him down as a tricky winger myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Patrick Vieira was much more of a ball player than he was ever given credit for.
    Because of his stature (and perhaps his colour) people pigeon holed him as a destroyer but that really wasn't what he was about.
    John Barnes could play in that position once his pace went.
    Ruud gullit played in midfield sometimes and was pretty effective.
    Frank rijkard (so) as well although more defensive.
    Yaya toure
    There must have been a fair few Brazilians over the years
    Vieira maybe, he was class on the ball but even though he wasnít about that idea he was in that position so can he really be classed as a ballplaying midfielder?
    Guillit was excellent across the park, his main position was attacking midfield/centre forward in his prime so more offensive than ball playing realling
    Donít know about Barnes personally - didnít watch him
    Rjikaard was a defensive midfielder primarily...
    Yaya Toure, was more of a box to box powerhouse in my view

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Carlton Palmer
    Didnít watch him play so canít comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Abedi Pele?
    Didnít see him play unfortunately

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Kante? Plays midfield for Chelsea.
    Is the best defensive midfielder in the world. Not ball playing midfielder

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Axel Witsel
    Corentin Tolisso
    Blaise Matuidi
    Youri Tielemans
    Gini Wijnaldum
    Fabinho (for Liverpool not Monaco)
    Tanguy Ndombele
    Fred?


    There's probably loads more depending on your definition of "ball playing".
    Those are mostly defensive midfielders (Matuidi, Tolisso, Fabinho, Witsel). Others are box to box (Ndombele, Fred, Wjinaldum). Havenít watched Tielemans enough to verify the claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnojek View Post
    Edgar Davids....Clarence Seedorf
    Davidís I didnít watch but Seedorf was more gifted at box to box in my view. Though I could see that as an exception

  23. #83
    CardiffCitySince1927
    Guest

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Really to be honest, Black midfielders generally (not being racist) are blessed with either great pace or strength... These can regularly be handy in the middle of the park however often find these players pushed out on the wing, upfront or in defence. Of course there are exceptions to this (Seedorf e.g.) but you can name 100 Pirlo-esque players who just ping balls out but hardly any black midfielders of this nature

  24. #84

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I’m still waiting for you to show me any evidence from other threads where it makes it “fairly clear” that I’m a racist. You seem to have enough time to keep chipping into this thread, but not enough to back up your statement. Maybe you made that bit up ��
    You seem offended. It looks like you spent the night stewing so I hope it didn't ruin your sleep.

    We both know that I'm not going to sift through your posts but I saw enough in the brexit threads not to be surprised when I saw your username next to the post.

    I guess the rule of thumb is that if you don't like people saying you're racist, avoid making racist jokes.

  25. #85

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    You seem offended. It looks like you spent the night stewing so I hope it didn't ruin your sleep.

    We both know that I'm not going to sift through your posts but I saw enough in the brexit threads not to be surprised when I saw your username next to the post.

    I guess the rule of thumb is that if you don't like people saying you're racist, avoid making racist jokes.
    Another rule of thumb, is donít throw accusations around unless you can back it up.
    What youíve written above is complete nonsense.
    In all the Brexit threads Iíve contributed to, Iím one of the only leavers who actually gave reasons why, and not one of those reasons, involved immigration, or anything you could level racism at.

  26. #86

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffCitySince1927 View Post
    Wouldíve had him down as a tricky winger myself.



    Vieira maybe, he was class on the ball but even though he wasnít about that idea he was in that position so can he really be classed as a ballplaying midfielder?
    Guillit was excellent across the park, his main position was attacking midfield/centre forward in his prime so more offensive than ball playing realling
    Donít know about Barnes personally - didnít watch him
    Rjikaard was a defensive midfielder primarily...
    Yaya Toure, was more of a box to box powerhouse in my view



    Didnít watch him play so canít comment



    Didnít see him play unfortunately



    Is the best defensive midfielder in the world. Not ball playing midfielder



    Those are mostly defensive midfielders (Matuidi, Tolisso, Fabinho, Witsel). Others are box to box (Ndombele, Fred, Wjinaldum). Havenít watched Tielemans enough to verify the claim



    Davidís I didnít watch but Seedorf was more gifted at box to box in my view. Though I could see that as an exception
    Are you saying that Pogba is the only black "ball playing midfielder" then? Not sure what your criteria for that is, especially in comparison to the players named in this thread; unless you think Pogba does nothing other than sit centrally & play passes and that makes him a ball playing midfielder

    I won't go through all of the players in the thread again but your descriptions of a lot of them seem incorrect to me in terms of their playing roles. None moreso than you than describing Jay-Jay Okocha as a tricky winger when he was the epitome of a central playmaker. He didn't have the pace to be a winger.

  27. #87

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    CCS191927... how have you seen Rijkaard and Gullit but not seen Barnes, Palmer and Davids? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

  28. #88

    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    The fact people refer to others as ďblackĒ proves we havenít moved on very much. We are all just people.
    Well said you got it nailed.

  29. #89

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    I think itís more that black people are less likely to get jobs they are more qualified, more likely to be unfairly targeted by police and more likely to be assaulted that shows we havenít moved on.

    Thereís nothing wrong with using black as an adjective is there?

  30. #90
    CardiffCitySince1927
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    Re: Black Goalkeeper's

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    CCS191927... how have you seen Rijkaard and Gullit but not seen Barnes, Palmer and Davids? That doesn't make sense to me at all.
    I watched a lot of the incredible Milan side 04/05 iirc, and watched a decent documentary on Guillit. They were all before my time tbh

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