Austin started for West Brom today.
Robson Kanu scores off the bench.
Zohore not in the squad. Didn’t notice him in the “missing players” on FlashScores either so doesn’t look like he’s injured.
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Austin started for West Brom today.
Robson Kanu scores off the bench.
Zohore not in the squad. Didn’t notice him in the “missing players” on FlashScores either so doesn’t look like he’s injured.
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport...nd-zohore-out/Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Calf injury, missed West Brom's game on Saturday and will miss Tuesday too.
Any news on Camarasa? I think he's been kidnapped.
I still think that the club somehow managing to get £8m for Kenneth ranks alongside getting £500k for a Steve McLean as the best selling transactions ever made by the club (how much did Wolves pay is for Joe Mason?)
£3m for Mason. Zohore not even on the bench today for WBA but he's still better than any other strike we currently have. TWo years ago would anyone have thought we'd be looking for Bogle or Ward to start.
Sorry. He's played 603 mins which is the equivalent of 6 full games and 63 mins.
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That stat means nothing with us.
We could have Earnie back and he wouldn’t get a sniff with service getting supplied now.
Sadly he would be rendered useless in our system.
So we need a new system... Now there’s a thought...
Our strikers are on a hiding to nothing no matter who they are.
Even the best Premier League strikers score at a rate of about one in four shots. For a striker playing for us that's about two games worth of shots and they're obviously not the Premier League elite either.
The jury is still out for me but one thing that makes me laugh is the people who seem to build Zohore up as some great player. He has currently scored the same as Glatzel. Both from the spot.
Zohore spent many a season here walking around looking disinterested and chasing defenders who passed it about at ease (as all out strikers do up top alone, including Glatzel) and had one purple patch but people seem to regard him as some great striker. He is not even making the bench for WBA, he is s***.
I had to laugh at the suggestion of signing Kiefer Moore instead. He currently has two less goals than Glatzel with roughly the same amount of appearances.
Four shots? And therein lies the problem - our strikers can’t get that many shots because they’re too busy trying to hold the ball up, waiting for support.
That certainly was the case tonight. Long ball to Glatzel and all he had was a solitary City player hugging the touch line.
Blackburn, by comparison, broke forward and most times had at least 4 runners moving into space.
I think our system is shot.
Tomlin should start and be the central player
According to Neil Harris Tomlin won't last 45 minutes! He's probably more useful as a sub.
He wasn't tonight, but Blackburn grew so much into the game and controlled it so well that Messi could have been there and done nothing.
Blame the manager for sticking with players that were at 30%
yes glatzel was very isolated, he did well on a number of occasions but we had no other players within 30 yards of him.
we really aren't using him to his strengths. it is like Cornelius all over again
I thought we undermined Cornelius's confidence by putting the warm up nets on the goal line rather than in the corner of the Canton Stand
It's the way Harris likes to play by the looks of things, Midfield players are supporting more than they did under Warnock and it does look a lot better in my opinion, the problem is that there doesn't seem to be much fluidity to our forward play at times, midfielders taking the odd touch to many and slowing the attack, it's still about getting the ball wide more than anything, although we are much better at keeping the ball now. Under Warnock, Blackburn wouldn't have scored that winner, as Bacuna wouldn't have been looking to play the ball inside and start again, it would've gone 50 yards. I prefer that we are trying to play a bit, mistakes will happen when things are changed and players are tired.
As for Glatzel, big improvement, looking more aggressive and showing some urgency, he has good feet as well. My main gripe with him is that he doesn't seem to know when to just hold the ball up, stand still and use his strength to either wait for support or draw a foul. Every time he receives the ball he turns with it or looks inside, sometimes he loses the ball unnecessarily as he doesn't have the pace once he's turned the defender to take it past them.
That's my point. Up top on his own he would need to go on a mazey run of Messi proportions just to get a shot off.
How many chances, ball in front of him to hit has he actually had? Not many to my mind.
As for the all conquering Zohore that we should have kept. He scored one goal for us last season in 19 league and 1 cup game. It was the scuffed daisy cutter at Southampton where he proclaimed "I'm back". He wasn't back but let's not let that cloud anybody's judgement.
In season 17/18 he scored 9 goals in 36 league and 3 cup games.
Glatzel currently has 2 in 10 and is still adjusting to this league. Even at the same level of performance and slowly getting more used to the league I think he would hit the heady benchmark that Zohore had set last time in this league.
Neil and the Brains Trust who act as our recruitment team signed a striker who scores at a rate of just shy of 1 in 3 for his former club.
If his goal against West Brom had rightly been given as he was not offside then he would be bagging at the same rate as he did for Heidenheim.
I fully expect Warnock to start getting stuck into him though, in fact he already has, like he did with Murphy as if all of the players faults started happening after they came here and we had paid a fair wedge for their services.
Put bluntly with Warnock's compact anti football that focuses on stifling the opposition rather than setting out with a positive mindset ourselves we can't reasonably expect a striker to score anything too much above 1 in 4 (Where Glatzel is almost at).
Since Warnock took over here in his full seasons the top scorers have been -
2016/17 - Zohore 12
2017/18 - Paterson 10 League, Hoilett 11 All Competitions
2018/19 - Paterson, Camarrasa and Reid - All 5
I'm not sure what the scoring pattern is of previous Warnock teams but certainly here whoever the man up top is struggles to score at a rate of 1 in 4 and we're reliant on everybody chipping in especially from set pieces.
Strikers under the Warnock system, love it or hate it are seen as an outlet to bring most others into the game.
Our strikers, given our style are as likely to score as a centre half from a set piece or a winger, midfielder with an eye for goal.
I'm in no doubt that our striking options will not change until our footballing philosophy and how we set up changes.
If we're looking like promotion material by the window ,( which seems less likely than it did in fairness), I could see Camarrassa coming back. It'd be great too if Harry Arter joined him.
Personally I'd recall Reid and put him in the development team too.
A Camarasa loan would be great. It could be the making of Glatzel.
I don't think Arter is what we need.
Why do you think there is a recall clause in the Decordova-Reid loan deal? The only things I have seen have been claims that it is season-long, due to be turned into a permanent move at the end of the season, and that there is an agreed price with Fulham that is more than we paid to Bristol City. Nothing about a recall (unlike for Cunningham).
Sadly Camrasa is on loan at Palace and they have an agreement to sign him at the end of the season, so he almost certainly won't be going anywhere this year.
Ah, right - thanks. I had it in my head that it was a permanent move to Palace from Betis.
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