Give Warnock until the Hull game.

[thehumblegringo]

What's the logic there then. I didn't raise the matter of course, but that's by the way.

Let's examine your statement since you're interested in intellectual thought.

1. Why would I be " resorting " to anything, ( what am I trying to achieve).
2. If Picasso had told someone that he was an artist we would, by your logic , conclude that he probably wasn't. Would that conclusion be sound ?

Let me give you a more logical construction regarding what you can deduce from a message board posting - If a man draws conclusions on some gut feeling, tinged with personal animosity about a matter which he has insufficient information to work with, then the conclusions he has reached are very unlikely to be correct. Can you see how that works ?

**** off Barnett. Every one of your guises get even more boring than the last. Get a ****ing girlfriend or something

[Taunton Blue Genie]

**** off Barnett. Every one of your guises get even more boring than the last. Get a ****ing girlfriend or something

Does this mean I share my surname with an intellectual? Good lord.

[dembethewarrior]

So if you win on Friday night you will move into a play off position. Oh and it’s still August. Not much loyalty to Warnock on here right now.

I’m not disloyal for pointing out I don’t believe it will work out for us this season.

[J R Hartley]

**** off Barnett. Every one of your guises get even more boring than the last. Get a ****ing girlfriend or something

Might be a bit difficult that one? Hes got a head like Rocky Dennis.

[WJ99mobile]

If he won that game against Fulham and eventually kept us up, he would be given freedom of the city.

Funny how quickly people turn

[Pedro de la Rosa]

If he won that game against Fulham and eventually kept us up, he would be given freedom of the city.

Funny how quickly people turn

But we didn't win it, and we didn't stay up. And he chucked on Rhys Healey. I thought he deserved another go, and still deserves time to turn this around but the jury is out on all of his signings since the start of 2018. That isn't good.

[Croesy Blue]

If he won that game against Fulham and eventually kept us up, he would be given freedom of the city.

Funny how quickly people turn

If he'd finished in the top 6 and got Beyonce to suck me off he'd have been given freedom of the city. But on both counts he did not.

[dembethewarrior]

Why is it these trolls can write and write, but you challenge them one one part of their post, a simple basic point, and they avoid answering like the plague?

[thehumblegringo]

Might be a bit difficult that one? Hes got a head like Rocky Dennis.

I was in college with lad who was nicknamed Rocky Dennis

[dembethewarrior]

If he won that game against Fulham and eventually kept us up, he would be given freedom of the city.

Funny how quickly people turn

Loads complained about the football in the promotion season

Loads did it in the PL

Loads would have still done it if we stayed up...

But as we’re now down in a lower division with a better squad, is it too much to have a little ambition and then question it when you don’t see that ambition and challenge from the team and manager?

[az city]

Loads complained about the football in the promotion season

Loads did it in the PL

Loads would have still done it if we stayed up...

But as we’re now down in a lower division with a better squad, is it too much to have a little ambition and then question it when you don’t see that ambition and challenge from the team and manager?

Correct. We have been awful to watch since mid '17-'18.

[J R Hartley]

If he won that game against Fulham and eventually kept us up, he would be given freedom of the city.

Funny how quickly people turn

That Fulham game where he sent on Rhys Healey as our saviour? In the Premier League? That Fulham game?

[J R Hartley]

I was in college with lad who was nicknamed Rocky Dennis

Poor ****er

[Heisenberg]

No, not really. I do feel a little guilty though because it was somewhat unfair of me to comment on your claim to be an intellectual when you would look weak if you ignored it and slightly ridiculous if you maintained that you were one, so sorry about that.

Regarding your two points;-
1. I'm not sure what you were trying to achieve, but I've noticed that it is the sort of thing you come out with from time to time.
2. If someone introduced themselves to me with the words "hello, I'm a painter", I'd shake their hands and continue the conversation. On the other hand, if someone introduced themselves to me with the words "hello, I'm an intellectual", I'd try my hardest not to laugh in their face, but, probably, fail.

[lardy]

My *outrage klaxon* went off twice in that one.

[dembethewarrior]

My *outrage klaxon* went off twice in that one.

You read it?

[Trigger]

We sold 18,000 season tickets for this season. How many are we going to sell for next season if we don't replace the manager and Warnock doesn't turn it around?

You realise people bought them this season, following a relegation, with Warnock at the helm?

Perhaps the majority of our fans quite like the guy and / or don't buy a season ticket based on who is managing us.

How many will we sell if he gains another promotion for the club?

[the other bob wilson]

You realise people bought them this season, following a relegation, with Warnock at the helm?

Perhaps the majority of our fans quite like the guy and / or don't buy a season ticket based on who is managing us.

How many will we sell if he gains another promotion for the club?

That's a fair question, but I think it's equally fair to wonder how many we'll sell if we go through the season, in or around the middle of the table,or worse, playing a style of football that it seems many fans are getting increasingly fed up with?

If we were to go up this season, I'd guess we'd have another five to six thousand season ticket holders and the figure would probably go down from the current one by about the same amount if things worked out as I speculated.

[NYCBlue]

You realise people bought them this season, following a relegation, with Warnock at the helm?

Perhaps the majority of our fans quite like the guy and / or don't buy a season ticket based on who is managing us.

How many will we sell if he gains another promotion for the club?

Yes, they bought them for this season. Expecting a promotion push with Bobby Reid playing up front and some new faces that would be an improvement on or at least as good as (with the exception loan signings) what they replaced.

[dembethewarrior]

You realise people bought them this season, following a relegation, with Warnock at the helm?

Perhaps the majority of our fans quite like the guy and / or don't buy a season ticket based on who is managing us.

How many will we sell if he gains another promotion for the club?

With the promise of having g a real go.

And a strong championship team with Reid Murphy etc.. look at what we’ve sold and what we’ve replaced them with. I’m willing that they all come good and really hope the new players do, but in my opinion we haven’t replaced them with like for like quality.
If we struggle to mid table this year and he goes, what makes you think we will sell the same amount?

[Trigger]

With the promise of having g a real go.

And a strong championship team with Reid Murphy etc.. look at what we’ve sold and what we’ve replaced them with. I’m willing that they all come good and really hope the new players do, but in my opinion we haven’t replaced them with like for like quality.
If we struggle to mid table this year and he goes, what makes you think we will sell the same amount?

We wouldn't. But that won't be because of Warnock, not really.

We have had a large percentage of "fairweather" fans (not sure what term to use really, and I don't necessarily mean anyone on this board) that are happy during the good times and their support tails off when things aren't so rosey.

You could say Warnock would be a part of it and you would be correct, but our support has always fluctuated massively, long before him and will long after him and in my opinion it's down to results as opposed to who is managing us and his style of football.

We don't ever seem to really hold support like some other clubs can, I guess it's a lack of serious success over the years.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

We don't ever seem to really hold support like some other clubs can, I guess it's a lack of serious success over the years.

It's South Wales. We're the biggest fair weather fans there are. Wales could get 50k for a game vs Azerbaijan when we can qualify, as soon as that was done they struggle to get 8k for Panama.

[Der Kaiser]

It's South Wales. We're the biggest fair weather fans there are. Wales could get 50k for a game vs Azerbaijan when we can qualify, as soon as that was done they struggle to get 8k for Panama.

Not just the football fans mind, the rugby fans are just as bad.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Not just the football fans mind, the rugby fans are just as bad.

The rugby fans have to turn up first . No, you're right. It's a welsh thing in general.

[Croesy Blue]

The rugby fans have to turn up first . No, you're right. It's a welsh thing in general.

Is a lot of that to do with Wales being mostly working class people and disposable income isn't that easy to come by?

I don't blame anyone not spending their hard earned on watching something that isn't enjoyable to watch just because a lot of old men on the internet have made up weird terms like fair weather and plastic.