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    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    The case of you being a Tory now. You say that you won't vote for them yet all you ever do is praise them, defend them, and slag off Labour.

    Can I shed some light on their success? Of course.

    The Labour Party haven't had a proper leader (I'm categorically not saying that he was a good leader) since Tony Blair. Brown was weak, the wrong Milliband was weak and Corbyn is far too divisive to be a party leader.

    Put pre-Iraq Blair in charge now and it would be a completely different situation.
    I know I will get slated saying this , but I thought minus Iraq, Blair was a bloody good leader.

    I wasnt defending them, read my reply again, I'm asking a question ??

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    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I know I will get slated saying this , but I thought minus Iraq, Blair was a bloody good leader.

    I wasnt defending them, read my reply again, I'm asking a question ??
    For you to state that then you must also believe Thatcher and Major were spiffing too because Blair (nor Brown) during 13 years reversed any of the reforms they introduced from 1979 to 1997, a great many of which the Labour Party complained endlessly about. The red and blue teams play the good cop/bad cop routine while carrying an identical torch in the same direction. It's not difficult to see.

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    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    For you to state that then you must also believe Thatcher and Major were spiffing too because Blair (nor Brown) during 13 years reversed any of the reforms they introduced from 1979 to 1997, a great many of which the Labour Party complained endlessly about. The red and blue teams play the good cop/bad cop routine while carrying an identical torch in the same direction. It's not difficult to see.
    I hated Thatcher , couldn't make Major out other than him being the pasty to get rid of Thatcher and some new nice face of the Tories as that era was ending .

    I suppose the main reason why I liked Blair , was because for the very first time in my lifetime someone gave the Tories a bloody good bashing , not once but twice ,and that is my honest answer .

    Yes to do it he had to tear up some of the old traditional Labour values as they were un - electable with them ,which i'm guessing is why the current leadership , are so bitter about current centralist type Labour MP' s .

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