The only vote is looking like Plaid in Wales, SNP in Scotland and Greens in England.
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The only vote is looking like Plaid in Wales, SNP in Scotland and Greens in England.
Disappointingly, there is very little in the way of genuine opposition to the Tories nowadays.
I’m voting green this time. Would love to see them get in and find out how they’d do.
Couldn’t be any worse than the lab/Tory dross I’ve experienced in my lifetime.
It's probably the Labour Party who are responsible for the strawberry picking immigrants that travel to Spain every year for short-term, non-union, zero hour jobs, innit?Originally Posted by David Vincent
Bastards!
Not sure what case is closed, I won't or ever will vote for the Tories I was simply trying to ask the question why they have been in power for so long , only really interrupted by a moderate socialist Blair goverment, can you shed some light to thier success?
Why is he so nasty, what a horror.
Why,because he said the council do not owe her anything.Not even basic living standards the man is a pig does not care for the people who need help.As i say a pig.
Mike this needs to be moved to the attack dog politics forum
The case of you being a Tory now. You say that you won't vote for them yet all you ever do is praise them, defend them, and slag off Labour.
Can I shed some light on their success? Of course.
The Labour Party haven't had a proper leader (I'm categorically not saying that he was a good leader) since Tony Blair. Brown was weak, the wrong Milliband was weak and Corbyn is far too divisive to be a party leader.
Put pre-Iraq Blair in charge now and it would be a completely different situation.
Does that mean that we should think for ourselves and not believe what you've told us?
How does this work?!
The key word which prevents my earlier statement being a paradox is "nearly".
Ok, Dave. I'll think for myself and file you under the "lies" part of nearly everything that I'm told.
I'll have to write on this imaginary file 'he probably doesn't realise that this bullshit isn't true, so it 'technically' isn't a lie, if that's the case'.
I know I will get slated saying this , but I thought minus Iraq, Blair was a bloody good leader.
I wasnt defending them, read my reply again, I'm asking a question ??
For you to state that then you must also believe Thatcher and Major were spiffing too because Blair (nor Brown) during 13 years reversed any of the reforms they introduced from 1979 to 1997, a great many of which the Labour Party complained endlessly about. The red and blue teams play the good cop/bad cop routine while carrying an identical torch in the same direction. It's not difficult to see.
I hated Thatcher , couldn't make Major out other than him being the pasty to get rid of Thatcher and some new nice face of the Tories as that era was ending .
I suppose the main reason why I liked Blair , was because for the very first time in my lifetime someone gave the Tories a bloody good bashing , not once but twice ,and that is my honest answer .
Yes to do it he had to tear up some of the old traditional Labour values as they were un - electable with them ,which i'm guessing is why the current leadership , are so bitter about current centralist type Labour MP' s .
Read my reply again and you'll see that I'm talking about your posts in general. There's no way that you're not a Tory.
How can anybody out of his/her teens contemplate voting Labour, with this disgraceful charlatan in charge? Unthinkable.
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The sooner it is reflective of the decency of people like Steve Baker the better. It would then be worth voting for again.
Steve Baker, The born again Christian who opposed same sex Marriage. Fair play, you've picked a right nasty bit of work there.
People who talk about replacing Corbyn have an incredible ability to suggest even worse candidates as his replacement
Anyone who thinks the Labour Party will just swing back to the right following Corbyn is in for a shock. With the threshold to get on the ballot lowered, the left will find it easier to win in future due to the ideology of the membership. The main problem facing left wingers in the Labour Party was getting enough nominations from the PLP, if the threshold is lowered to 10%, any potential leader would only need around 24 nominations. There are 21 MPs in the Socialist Campaign Group alone, all of which will back a left leader who would win the vote comfortably
So you’re drawing moral equivalence between supporting terrorists who bombed, killed and maimed hundreds of innocent people, with somebody expressing a denial of the validity of homosexual marriage? Who exactly has ‘picked a right nasty piece of work there’? 🤔
So now he supports terrorists?
Thatcher negotiated with the IRA during the hunger strikes and she had a wonderful relationship with Mr Pinochet, he of the death squads. Corbyns actions in engaging with Sinn Fein were groundbreaking, even the SDLP followed suit and realised that the only way that there was to be peace was to talk. He was right, wasn't he?
Wow , quite a speech and an attack is it true ?????
It was a widely publicised attack on Corbyn when he made it in early September. The national Tory press loved it - not just Steve Baker and his 'Spartan' ERG mates. It is no surprise at all. You only have to look for a few minutes at the track record of Ian Austin to decide whether his Parliamentary rant was true or not.
He has previous for abusive behaviour - in the Commons and against former Labour colleagues. He is a Labour Friends of Israel stalwart and has had to apologise in the past for false claims of anti-semitism. He was a Gordon Brown tail gunner for a while but has moved rapidly further right in recent years and has supported private schools, no deal Brexit (despite backing Remain in the referendum) and was vociferous in his attacks on Corbyn for his opposition to Blair and the Iraq War when the Chilcott Report came out in 2016. He is also an expenses cheat!
You bet your sweet arse it’s true. Corbyn is an avowed communist who has always sided with enemies of this country. He was a particular fan of the IRA.
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