Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?Originally Posted by jackrabbit
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Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?
BYeah, what was he thinking? Talking openly to these organisations and trying to sort things out without further bloodshed (while as we now know, Thatcher was secretly meeting them, going public wouldn’t have done much for her hang ‘em high, gung ho persona). Hypothetically speaking had Corbyn, not Blair been Prime Minister perhaps there wouldn’t have been so many grieving relatives of British soldiers. Corbyn stuck to his beliefs, didn’t piss off and form another party like other shithouses have who couldn’t get their own way. He toughed it out, stuck to his beliefs and eventually became leader. Only thing I’d pull him up on is his reluctance to back ‘Remain’ 100%, which pisses me off.
Was it you I saw on Sunday flying the Union Jack at the Liberty, whilst singing along to 'Hyms and Arias'??
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Not me. I wouldn’t go near that fixture. Too many uncouth yobs in both camps. I watched it on Sky ....and enjoyed it.
Away from the tit for tat playground reply , you vote for them na na na na stuff .
I am asking you an basic political question , a subject matter you clearly enjoy , why have the Tories have been so successful in wining so many elections and running our country for so long ,surely a fella with so many other opinions ,has a view on this ??,
You do realise that you've edited out my answer to your question in the post that you've just quoted, right? You have even responded to it previously saying that you liked BlairIf you've genuinely not noticed that you've done it, that's a bit worrying.
I'll post it again now and make the words bigger (like you've just done) so you don't miss it this time.
Oh, I can explain that. At a general election every adult gets the chance to vote. Surprisingly, many people don't share the same views as a group of 10 or so individuals who haunt a football message board in south Wales.
Whoever's in charge come December, I hope they take better care of our hard earned taxes :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...2-000-day.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/102318...cash-marbella/
Labour are about to get smashed out of sight. We are going to have a minimum 5 years of a Boris Johnson government. A nightmare thought.
Labour have done this to themselves and it dates back to electing the wrong Milliband brother.
Labour need to win the marginals and they are not doing that with the likes of Corbyn and Dianne Abbott at the front.
They may even lose numbers of safe seats which will be some achievement.
Yeah I cannot see anything but a tory win.
Unfortunately you’re right. Any decent opposition party should be polling so much higher against the basket case of a PM and Conservative party but the Labour Party is a split as the Conservative’s are. Clearly Corbyn is unelectable to the wider population and doesn’t fit with a large proportion of labour MPs, however he’s loved by the grass roots members. Unfortunately that won’t get him or the Labour Party into power and will hand control to the Tories for 5 years, oh joy!
I'm not so sure that labour will get smashed. The problem is from within, the membership overwhelmingly want Corbyn, some of his fellow labour MP'S have done all they can to rubbish him and get him out.
I don't think they'll get smashed either. It'll be hung and who knows what discussions will take place either. But agree with the comments on the Labour leadership. Someone other than Corbyn would be hoping for a landslide.
I actually think Corbyn had a window to stop the Boris , and perhaps JC task may now be slightly easier , and that was fir for him to reluctantly back Mays part remain withdrawal bill , on the guise to stop the rise of the right ERG, he could now be
canvassing doing the right thing for the country albeit
reluctantly and in doing so deliver a democract decesion .
He would be in a better place now as May was very unpopular and a dead woman walking politically .
Trouble with him and to some extent a lot of Labour voters thier hatred of anything Tory blinds them and in my opinion effects thier judgement, you can that from a few on this board and thier behaviours and childish personal attacks.
It seems one cannot call out ones party faults , without being called a Tory , its as if your not allowed another view , or seek something better of the party you have traditionally supported .
The biggest threat for Labour is if the Tories dont contest the Brexit seats stronlgy , yes the mood music is no pact however I wonder if the already Tories know they would never beat Labour in those leave seats but the Brexit party would.
I would not be surprised if the Brexit party only contests leave known own areas to concentrate thier resources,rather than UK wide candidates?
And Wales us well up for a Brexit grab , no wonder thier conference was held in Wales , they are on the sniff .
For me Its horrible to see the demise of Labour, thats why I'm more crtical of them in thier current state as they are destroying Labour goid centralist MP's are being isolated one by one ,I've always known the Tories too be the alleged nasty ones , I'm sure like most parties there's good and bad, so its wrong to label everyone under the same badge .
I tell you what you'd have to be driven and gavevsome balls to want to bemcone an MP in this era with its ease of use social media abuse channels.
What’s the Brexit Party’s stance on the NHS, Transport, Environment, Education etc? Or are they just a one trick pony? Ridiculous to even contemplate voting for them, Farage (the same as Johnson) is akin to a daft dog barking like mad and chasing a bus but having no clue what to do when he caught it.
Farage and co are basically further to the right Tories who are and will take a significant amount of working class voters for mugs ie the 350m for the NHS. I was listening to a traditional Labour voter and member on the radio the other day and he said he could not back Labour due to Brexit. He said he would never vote for the Tories. He wasn't happy about it but said hed back the even more right wing Brexit lot. When asked why he said they didnt close the pits.
Labour are about to be hammered and its their own doing.
I don't understand anyone with the attitude of "yeah, there is a lot of inequality in Britain at the moment, those at the bottom of the ladder have worse working conditions than a generation ago, the disabled are worse off, the NHS is on its knees, council funding has been slashed and have closed half of its amenities, but I'll vote to get rid of the NHS, to widen that equality, to make working class people worse off and work longer just because the leader who wants to change things for the better has some dubious things in his past".
People are selfish, people who vote tory even more so.
Unfortunately the scummy right wing press did a number on Corbyn and were allowed to get away with it aided and abetted by a pathetic BBC.
It disgusts me when I hear of Corbyn being labelled as a terrorist sympathiser. If he is one what the hell does that make Thatcher, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May and Johnson?
We live in a country with the most right wing press in Europe. It is hugely influential. It goes unchallenged and it’s narrative is often followed by the BBC.
In time Johnson and his rotten party will be found out as they were in 1997 but not before they cause even more damage to our health service and education as well as our standing in the world. We will continue to see more homeless on our streets and more people using food banks because the Tories just don’t care.
Well said, especially about the BBC who backhandedly discredited Corbyn at any given opportunity,Aided by that smug arsehole Laura Kuenssberg.
She doesn’t even try to hide it either, BBC impartiality my arse! I’m sure she got pulled up for once for it previously in relation to Corbyn but that hasn’t changed her ways!
Welcome sadly to the new socialist mantra . Incredible response .
****off Tory
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What a load of right wing crap.So you think all the big companies should pay the lowest tax rates ?
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