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  1. #1

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by jackrabbit View Post
    “ Corbyn and Labour are peddling the politics of resentment, painting a Fantasy Island vision of Britain as a Dickensian wasteland, full of cartoon Conservative villains in top hats, lighting big cigars with wads of £50 notes and pitchforking babies, while they deliberately poison the rivers and set fire to schools and hospitals.

    Labour’s manifesto is like something from a Momentum version of the Beano. Soak the rich, stop the cuts, for the many not the few. Someone change the record. I can’t take six weeks of this drivel.” Richard Littlejohn

    Spot on
    What about that video of Dominic Cummings where he very specifically says that the Tories don't care about poor people or the NHS? That's not a fantasy, it's right here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=-SdEbfJJiag

  2. #2

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    What about that video of Dominic Cummings where he very specifically says that the Tories don't care about poor people or the NHS? That's not a fantasy, it's right here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=-SdEbfJJiag
    It's also plainly obvious if you ever read any of their manifestos

  3. #3

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by jackrabbit View Post
    “ Corbyn and Labour are peddling the politics of resentment, painting a Fantasy Island vision of Britain as a Dickensian wasteland, full of cartoon Conservative villains in top hats, lighting big cigars with wads of £50 notes and pitchforking babies, while they deliberately poison the rivers and set fire to schools and hospitals.

    Labour’s manifesto is like something from a Momentum version of the Beano. Soak the rich, stop the cuts, for the many not the few. Someone change the record. I can’t take six weeks of this drivel.” Richard Littlejohn

    Spot on
    Brainwashed by the right wing press like many in this country, sad to see really.

    Quoting Richard littleJohn and being serious is the sure sign of a simple arse hole of a man.

  4. #4

    Re: Ken Loach

    For some poor sods the Dickensian wasteland does exist. Relying on food banks in Tory Britain. Homeless in Tory Britain.The Tories do not care.

  5. #5

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    For some poor sods the Dickensian wasteland does exist. Relying on food banks in Tory Britain. Homeless in Tory Britain.The Tories do not care.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...birth-13937335

    This is Tory Britain

  6. #6

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Isn’t that disgusting. Says a lot about Ashley. The link at the start of this thread about families living in damp conditions and cockroaches. It says it all. High time Labour became a lot nastier to combat the nasty party.

  7. #7

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    Based it largely on the contributors. Some, not all. If the cap fits though 👍
    Ah, so you took the time to read the names at the top of each post yet didn’t read the posts, I swerve threads that don’t interest me, still each to his own.

  8. #8

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    Not much of a critique though, is it? Just typical cartoonish hyperbole from a right wing pen for hire.
    The labour manifesto isn't even out yet is it?

  9. #9

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    The labour manifesto isn't even out yet is it?
    Not for a couple of weeks

  10. #10

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    The labour manifesto isn't even out yet is it?
    The Brexit Party’s manifesto will be simple one, ‘Leave’ on the back of a fag packet.

  11. #11

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The Brexit Party’s manifesto will be simple one, ‘Leave’ on the back of a fag packet.
    Sounds like a winner to me ........

  12. #12

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Isn’t that disgusting. Says a lot about Ashley. The link at the start of this thread about families living in damp conditions and cockroaches. It says it all. High time Labour became a lot nastier to combat the nasty party.
    Shameful

  13. #13

    Re: Ken Loach

    Forget about the Punch and Judy Show in the Commons because it's a charade. Bar for minor cosmetic differences the red, blue and amber teams are merely hand puppets for private bankers, multinational companies and major landowners who employ lobbyists to get what they want. MPs have a higher calling than to them though, that's to themselves as self-enrichment is their number one priority.

    It matters not a jot who anyone votes for in General Elections because whatever the the outcome it results in the same thing: more laws, less liberties; more surveillance, less privacy; more taxes, less disposable income; more societal decay, less cohesiveness; and more state dependency, less independence as the middle class continues to be eviscerated while the West's former wealth flows East to China and elsewhere at an accelerating rate.

    The pragmatic turn out to place an X next to a candidate who they believe represent the least worse option and what will be ever so slightly better for them and absent of any emotion attached to the bunk surrounding the uncaring Tories/fluffy Labour false paradigm pantomime stuff.

  14. #14

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Forget about the Punch and Judy Show in the Commons because it's a charade. Bar for minor cosmetic differences the red, blue and amber teams are merely hand puppets for private bankers, multinational companies and major landowners who employ lobbyists to get what they want. MPs have a higher calling than to them though, that's to themselves as self-enrichment is their number one priority.

    It matters not a jot who anyone votes for in General Elections because whatever the the outcome it results in the same thing: more laws, less liberties; more surveillance, less privacy; more taxes, less disposable income; more societal decay, less cohesiveness; and more state dependency, less independence as the middle class continues to be eviscerated while the West's former wealth flows East to China and elsewhere at an accelerating rate.

    The pragmatic turn out to place an X next to a candidate who they believe represent the least worse option and what will be ever so slightly better for them and absent of any emotion attached to the bunk surrounding the uncaring Tories/fluffy Labour false paradigm pantomime stuff.
    Best post in this thread matey

  15. #15

    Re: Ken Loach

    Its for the best that the UK break up.

  16. #16

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
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    Yeah, what was he thinking? Talking openly to these organisations and trying to sort things out without further bloodshed (while as we now know, Thatcher was secretly meeting them, going public wouldn’t have done much for her hang ‘em high, gung ho persona). Hypothetically speaking had Corbyn, not Blair been Prime Minister perhaps there wouldn’t have been so many grieving relatives of British soldiers. Corbyn stuck to his beliefs, didn’t piss off and form another party like other shithouses have who couldn’t get their own way. He toughed it out, stuck to his beliefs and eventually became leader. Only thing I’d pull him up on is his reluctance to back ‘Remain’ 100%, which pisses me off.
    Did he talk to the SDLP and Loyalists as well?

    I would have expected our Government to have some sort of system to speak to the IRA. That is what Governments do.

  17. #17

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Did he talk to the SDLP and Loyalists as well?

    I would have expected our Government to have some sort of system to speak to the IRA. That is what Governments do.
    What? No one jumping in to defend Jeremy of Arc, for his selfless work in saving Ulster

    Not even to call me a Tory whatsit or (worst of all........A Daily Mail reader!!!

    ( You may detect the very slightest hint of sarcasm in this post).

  18. #18

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    What? No one jumping in to defend Jeremy of Arc, for his selfless work in saving Ulster

    Not even to call me a Tory whatsit or (worst of all........A Daily Mail reader!!!

    ( You may detect the very slightest hint of sarcasm in this post).
    The SDLP spoke to sinn Fein soon after Corbyn had spoken to them, even they realised that dialogue was the only way.

  19. #19

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    What? No one jumping in to defend Jeremy of Arc, for his selfless work in saving Ulster

    Not even to call me a Tory whatsit or (worst of all........A Daily Mail reader!!!

    ( You may detect the very slightest hint of sarcasm in this post).
    Do we know if he did or didn't speak to them?

    More to the point, why is this more important than the Labour manifesto?

  20. #20

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    What? No one jumping in to defend Jeremy of Arc, for his selfless work in saving Ulster

    Not even to call me a Tory whatsit or (worst of all........A Daily Mail reader!!!

    ( You may detect the very slightest hint of sarcasm in this post).
    Hint of rabies too.

  21. #21

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Hint of rabies too.
    ???????

  22. #22

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Do we know if he did or didn't speak to them?

    More to the point, why is this more important than the Labour manifesto?
    Where, in my post did I say it was?

    I'll respond to the first part of your post later.

  23. #23

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Where, in my post did I say it was?

    I'll respond to the first part of your post later.
    I see the king of whataboutism has arrived. Why do you respond to any criticism of your precious tories by slagging of Corbyn? Normal people don't support a political party like a football team like you do.

  24. #24

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I see the king of whataboutism has arrived. Why do you respond to any criticism of your precious tories by slagging of Corbyn? Normal people don't support a political party like a football team like you do.
    They are not my "precious" tories as you put it. I have voted for them but I have voted
    Liberal Lib Dem and ( admittedly only at a local level because I knew the candidate) Labour in the past.

    Someone made a point about Corbyn that disagree with.

    Aren't I allowed to comment?

    And note I haven't jumped to defend Boris.

    I reckognise his many flaws, they are often indefensible.

    Both main parties have deserted the centre ground and both have things about them I find unpalatable.

    How am I supporting the Tories as if they were a football team

    Pray tell

  25. #25

    Re: Ken Loach

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Where, in my post did I say it was?

    I'll respond to the first part of your post later.
    You didn't. It's blatantly clear that the Tories strategy for keeping Labour at arms length is to attack Corbyn. Never before has a political leader been smeared and lied about by the predominantly right wing press. Labour's brand of mild socialism scares the establishment and most wealthy, hence why Corbyn is the source of the attacks. The Tories know that Labour's policies are more popular - they can't attack them on that.

    So back to my question. Is this more important than Labour's manifesto?

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