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  1. #1

    Why Bellamy?

    Noticed a few saying they want Bellamy but scoff at Mike Flynn.
    What has Bellers done as a manager?
    Mike Flynn although not my choice whose to say with better players and a better budget he couldn't do well?
    Bellamy couldn't manage the academy team without ballsing it up..

  2. #2

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    I’d have Mike Flynn over Bellamy any day of the week.

  3. #3

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    No way Flynn! He'd be trouble.

  4. #4

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by cardiff55 View Post
    No way Flynn! He'd be trouble.
    Why?

  5. #5

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Noticed a few saying they want Bellamy but scoff at Mike Flynn.
    What has Bellers done as a manager?
    Mike Flynn although not my choice whose to say with better players and a better budget he couldn't do well?
    Bellamy couldn't manage the academy team without ballsing it up..
    Young, experience playing at the top level and from what everybody says, has been learning from some top managers as he goes. Got the drive and determination and desire to make changes to the way the club is run in terms of pathway to the first team. Will have the instant respect of the dressing room in a way that a League 2 manager definitely won't.

  6. #6

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Noticed a few saying they want Bellamy but scoff at Mike Flynn.
    What has Bellers done as a manager?
    Mike Flynn although not my choice whose to say with better players and a better budget he couldn't do well?
    Bellamy couldn't manage the academy team without ballsing it up..
    Ballsing it up? They won their league

  7. #7

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Noticed a few saying they want Bellamy but scoff at Mike Flynn.
    What has Bellers done as a manager?
    Mike Flynn although not my choice whose to say with better players and a better budget he couldn't do well?
    Bellamy couldn't manage the academy team without ballsing it up..
    Perhaps Chelsea should have employed Mike Flynn instead of Frank Lampard then

  8. #8

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Perhaps Chelsea should have employed Mike Flynn instead of Frank Lampard then
    That made laugh .

  9. #9

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Perhaps Chelsea should have employed Mike Flynn instead of Frank Lampard then
    Lampard did well with Derby in the championship before Chelsea. Bellamy?
    Hartley i'm sure you wouldn't really want Bellers? Or is your decent football knowledge not what it used to be

  10. #10

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Lampard did well with Derby in the championship before Chelsea. Bellamy?
    Hartley i'm sure you wouldn't really want Bellers? Or is your decent football knowledge not what it used to be
    So why cant Bellamy do a good job at Cardiff like Lampard at Derby.?

  11. #11

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    So why cant Bellamy do a good job at Cardiff like Lampard at Derby.?
    We could have applied that sort of argument to Ole.

  12. #12

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Lampard did well with Derby in the championship before Chelsea. Bellamy?
    Hartley i'm sure you wouldn't really want Bellers? Or is your decent football knowledge not what it used to be
    Why cant Bellamy start with us like Lampard did with Derby? If anything Derby are a bigger club than Cardiff?

    Dont matter anyway, looks like the club are going with the cheap option of Neil Harris. That should make you happy. Hes got 4 years managerial experience after all.

  13. #13

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Why cant Bellamy start with us like Lampard did with Derby? If anything Derby are a bigger club than Cardiff?

    Dont matter anyway, looks like the club are going with the cheap option of Neil Harris. That should make you happy. Hes got 4 years managerial experience after all.
    Agree, why not Bellamy - might be the best thing the club has ever done or might be a disaster, every managerial appointment is a bit of a gamble - but at least Bellamy would be afforded some time by the fans because of his links to us. If it's Neil Harris and he gets off to a bad start there will be baying for his blood very quickly as it appears a pretty uninspiring appointment . Same with Flynn who is doing a decent job at County on no budget but I gather the football style is very much similar to ours and he also has no experience managing in the Championship, same as Bellamy.

    Maybe we should ask the Jacks for help, they mostly do pretty well with their left field managerial appointments!

  14. #14

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    Agree, why not Bellamy - might be the best thing the club has ever done or might be a disaster, every managerial appointment is a bit of a gamble - but at least Bellamy would be afforded some time by the fans because of his links to us. If it's Neil Harris and he gets off to a bad start there will be baying for his blood very quickly as it appears a pretty uninspiring appointment . Same with Flynn who is doing a decent job at County on no budget but I gather the football style is very much similar to ours and he also has no experience managing in the Championship, same as Bellamy.

    Maybe we should ask the Jacks for help, they mostly do pretty well with their left field managerial appointments!
    yeah , that American guy was an inspirational choice.

  15. #15

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Why cant Bellamy start with us like Lampard did with Derby? If anything Derby are a bigger club than Cardiff?

    Dont matter anyway, looks like the club are going with the cheap option of Neil Harris. That should make you happy. Hes got 4 years managerial experience after all.
    No my choice would be Houghton , The ex Fulham fella or Brentfords manager..
    Bellamy would get my support though like any manager they bring in

  16. #16

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Ive been impressed with Bellamy when hes on Sky. Talks a good game.

    Mike Flynn FFS seriously. Lets bring in Slade as DOF while we are at it.

    It wont be either but cmon Bellamy or Mike Flynn. Bellamy its a no contest.

  17. #17

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Ive been impressed with Bellamy when hes on Sky. Talks a good game.

    Mike Flynn FFS seriously. Lets bring in Slade as DOF while we are at it.

    It wont be either but cmon Bellamy or Mike Flynn. Bellamy its a no contest.
    You FFS seriously. You and that Bowie avatar fecker should do some research.

    MF has done an incredible job at County. He’s doing much better than Warnock is in his respective league with an equivalent transfer and wage bill much smaller than that of NW.

    They’ve challenged towards the top of the league for the last two or three seasons and have had cup runs in consecutive years. All this with one of the lowest budgets in the lowest league.

    To write the guy off is just snobbery, arrogance and ignorance.

  18. #18

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Noticed a few saying they want Bellamy but scoff at Mike Flynn.
    What has Bellers done as a manager?
    Mike Flynn although not my choice whose to say with better players and a better budget he couldn't do well?
    Bellamy couldn't manage the academy team without ballsing it up..
    It's a fair question. I think that the interview he gave to The Times has swayed a few and his appearances on Sky, to be fair to him, he does speak well and is articulate when talking about football, he has a way of captivating the audience with his no bullshit mantra, Roy Keane was pretty good at it for a while as was Martin o Neil, all three of them in different ways. Football fans love it, it plays to our emotions and makes us believe that their certainty and no 'grey areas' attitude is exactly what we need. The reality is that it doesn't always transfer itself into the realities of everyday management. I'm not saying that Bellamy wouldn't make a good manager, i just don't know as there is zero evidence (apart from rhetoric) that says he would be. Atleast Flynn has some form.

  19. #19

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    It's a fair question. I think that the interview he gave to The Times has swayed a few and his appearances on Sky, to be fair to him, he does speak well and is articulate when talking about football, he has a way of captivating the audience with his no bullshit mantra, Roy Keane was pretty good at it for a while as was Martin o Neil, all three of them in different ways. Football fans love it, it plays to our emotions and makes us believe that their certainty and no 'grey areas' attitude is exactly what we need. The reality is that it doesn't always transfer itself into the realities of everyday management. I'm not saying that Bellamy wouldn't make a good manager, i just don't know as there is zero evidence (apart from rhetoric) that says he would be. Atleast Flynn has some form.
    In division 2.
    No one seems to want to mention the obvious benefit of attracting players who would seriously be "on the fence" about joining this club. Something we would experience a lot under Flynn

  20. #20

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    In division 2.
    No one seems to want to mention the obvious benefit of attracting players who would seriously be "on the fence" about joining this club. Something we would experience a lot under Flynn
    So would anyone sign because Neil Harris is the manager?

    Flynn has done a remarkable job at County and the lengths that people are going to so they can discredit him are remarkable. I don’t really want him but he’s a better option than Neil Harris.

  21. #21

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    So would anyone sign because Neil Harris is the manager?

    Flynn has done a remarkable job at County and the lengths that people are going to so they can discredit him are remarkable. I don’t really want him but he’s a better option than Neil Harris.
    I dont want either of them, I think we can aim higher than both, but why is he a better option than Harris?

    They seem very similair managers, who set their sides up with the emphasis on hard work and determination, having to punch above their weight and budget in their respective leagues, both had decent cup runs, both had a playing connection to the club they managed,etc.etc

    The only difference I can see is Harris has managed at a higher level and has experience at Championship level too.

  22. #22

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I dont want either of them, I think we can aim higher than both, but why is he a better option than Harris?

    They seem very similair managers, who set their sides up with the emphasis on hard work and determination, having to punch above their weight and budget in their respective leagues, both had decent cup runs, both had a playing connection to the club they managed,etc.etc

    The only difference I can see is Harris has managed at a higher level and has experience at Championship level too.
    Nobody would be talking about Flynn if he didn't currently manage a club 15 miles down the road.

  23. #23

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I dont want either of them, I think we can aim higher than both, but why is he a better option than Harris?

    They seem very similair managers, who set their sides up with the emphasis on hard work and determination, having to punch above their weight and budget in their respective leagues, both had decent cup runs, both had a playing connection to the club they managed,etc.etc

    The only difference I can see is Harris has managed at a higher level and has experience at Championship level too.
    Harris just really doesn’t inspire me at all. I don’t want either and Bowyer is a scum bag. Flynn has done a remarkable job at Newport though and there aren’t too many managers pulling up trees in the lower divisions.

  24. #24

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Perhaps Chelsea should have employed Mike Flynn instead of Frank Lampard then
    Just because a player has played at a high level, doesn’t mean they will be a good manager I.e. Tony Adams, Roy Keane etc.

    But from what I understand of Bellamy, he’s well thought of as a coach with decent ideas and he would initially command the respect of the changing room as a result of his playing career. It would be a risk but manager’s have to start somewhere like Lampard at Derby, and Bellamy would have the advantage of knowing Tan, Dalman etc and the academy/development team set up.

    Still my choice would be Jokanovic but I wouldn’t be disappointed if we went with Bellamy.
    Last edited by Stavross1927; 11-11-19 at 21:54. Reason: Missed word

  25. #25

    Re: Why Bellamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavross1927 View Post
    Just because a player has played at a high level, doesn’t mean they will be a good manager I.e. Tony Adams, Roy Keane etc.

    But from what I understand of Bellamy, he’s well thought of as a coach with decent ideas and he would initially command the respect of the changing room as a result of his playing career. It would be a risk but manager’s have to start somewhere like Lampard at Derby, and Bellamy would have the advantage of knowing Tan, Dalman etc and the academy/development team set up.

    Still my choice would be Jokanovic but I wouldn’t be disappointed if we went with Bellamy.
    I know that, I was just being flippant. I remember when Lampard got the Derby and Chelsea jobs you had people saying the same thing ie he’s never managed, he should start lower down the leagues, it’s too early for a top job.etc?

    Why? If youve been a top or world class footballer then why is too early? Most world class footballers don’t have to work their way through the leagues as players, so why should they as managers?

    Top players struggle as managers when they are dealing with players at a level they are not used to.

    As for Tony Adams, he’s stark raving bonkers. He was a pundit on the Leicester game Saturday night. Should have been sectioned years ago.

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