Ukraine Corruption

[life on mars]

It's always been a source of baffled amusement to me why obviously right wing posters are often so keen to let us know about their "left leaning" politics.

Many socialist voters voted for Brexit , millions did in a Blair landslide, Clinton was forgiven and revered by the left in the UK , what your describing is not right wing left leaning socialist it's called centralism politics.


Iis pretty clear the further left our Labour party goes the more alienated it becomes , as Alan Johnson famously
described it on election night "" the party is like a student union protest group " .

In my interest in politics over the decades I've never know such a drift away from labour as we see now , with the fact they could not beat the feckless Boris , May and Cameron ???? and that is a very sad ( fact ) and unforgivable .


Perhaps this is the Labour strategy, to finallh kill off any centrealist policy, support or MP once and for all , and just play hit and run oppostion politics , instead of leading or being in power ??? ( Just have a look at how little stage time they gave Kier in the last election )

In my humble opinion having another option or opinion away from the current Labour project doesn't make one left leaning right winger ,that's a weakness and not broad enough of thought , I know many decent folk who think the same way, unfortunately they have been bullied away from this board .

I'm not levelling this at your goodself or others , it's simply a viewpoint that others may agree or discard with its called freedom of speech and views not a left leaning right winger.?????

[the other bob wilson]

Many socialist voters voted for Brexit , millions did in a Blair landslide, Clinton was forgiven and revered by the left in the UK , what your describing is not right wing left leaning socialist it's called centralism politics.


Iis pretty clear the further left our Labour party goes the more alienated it becomes , as Alan Johnson famously
described it on election night "" the party is like a student union protest group " .

In my interest in politics over the decades I've never know such a drift away from labour as we see now , with the fact they could not beat the feckless Boris , May and Cameron ???? and that is a very sad ( fact ) and unforgivable .


Perhaps this is the Labour strategy, to finallh kill off any centrealist policy, support or MP once and for all , and just play hit and run oppostion politics , instead of leading or being in power ??? ( Just have a look at how little stage time they gave Kier in the last election )

In my humble opinion having another option or opinion away from the current Labour project doesn't make one left leaning right winger ,that's a weakness and not broad enough of thought , I know many decent folk who think the same way, unfortunately they have been bullied away from this board .

I'm not levelling this at your goodself or others , it's simply a viewpoint that others may agree or discard with its called freedom of speech and views not a left leaning right winger.?????

Lots of words without addressing my point (to be fair, I didn't develop it much in my message). It's not that unusual to see plainly right wing opinions being preceded by the person making them mentioning their left wing credentials - it's as if, deep down, they don't like what they've become.