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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    With way too much time on thier hands , and becomming very bitter by the day , I bet they report the postman for not closing the gate.

    Its noticeable since the election defeat, its got more futile and childlike.
    He bit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    I don't remember that one - but of course he would do that. All credit to you for continuing to make him look like an idiot. I reached my breaking point when he was losing an argument and had to resort to calling me and TOBW rapist apologists instead of backing down or accepting that he'd got the facts wrong. He's a child, lashing out at anyone who doesn't agree with him.
    Any respect I had for him disappeared at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Any respect I had for him disappeared at that point.
    Except I never said it. I said it was logically implied due to the structure of the argument, in the same way that the Remainers are anti-democratic for rejecting the will of the people, and the anti-Trumpers who were supporting state agencies spying on political opponents and trying to remove them from office, when it was unconstitutional. The problem is people are twisting arguments to fit political beliefs, which in the case you mentioned was to smear Boris because he was a Brexiteer. TDS and BDS are two very real phenomenons, and we now have people supporting Iran over the western allies. The media have got you lot whipped up into a right old frenzy, and you now lack the ability to think critically due to inherent biases. The funniest thing I have seen is cyril going line-by-line through years old banter on a football message board, trying to find random comments to smear people for exposing his fake news propaganda. You couldn't make this shit up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Except I never said it. I said it was logically implied due to the structure of the argument, in the same way that the Remainers are anti-democratic for rejecting the will of the people, and the anti-Trumpers who were supporting state agencies spying on political opponents and trying to remove them from office, when it was unconstitutional. The problem is people are twisting arguments to fit political beliefs, which in the case you mentioned was to smear Boris because he was a Brexiteer. TDS and BDS are two very real phenomenons, and we now have people supporting Iran over the western allies. The media have got you lot whipped up into a right old frenzy, and you now lack the ability to think critically due to inherent biases. The funniest thing I have seen is cyril going line-by-line through years old banter on a football message board, trying to find random comments to smear people for exposing his fake news propaganda. You couldn't make this shit up!
    Unlike you who is making it up as you go along in your first two sentences - the waffle, obfuscation and denial of facts continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Unlike you who is making it up as you go along in your first two sentences - the waffle, obfuscation and denial of facts continues.
    As the owner of the thought processes behind what I wrote, I know exactly what I meant. The last time I checked, we were not in some kind of Stalinist thought-control police state, although I get the feeling that some people on here wish that we were, so that they can attribute thoughts to others and establish guilt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    As the owner of the thought processes behind what I wrote, I know exactly what I meant. The last time I checked, we were not in some kind of Stalinist thought-control police state, although I get the feeling that some people on here wish that we were, so that they can attribute thoughts to others and establish guilt!
    Just got in from the game and that's given me a right good laugh - you keep on being right in your head and I'll judge you by what you type .

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Just got in from the game and that's given me a right good laugh - you keep on being right in your head and I'll judge you by what you type .
    I've just booked a month away at a Chinese re-education camp, and hopefully I will come back with the right kind of thoughts, so that I can fit in more easily with you lot on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Except I never said it. I said it was logically implied due to the structure of the argument, in the same way that the Remainers are anti-democratic for rejecting the will of the people, and the anti-Trumpers who were supporting state agencies spying on political opponents and trying to remove them from office, when it was unconstitutional. The problem is people are twisting arguments to fit political beliefs, which in the case you mentioned was to smear Boris because he was a Brexiteer. TDS and BDS are two very real phenomenons, and we now have people supporting Iran over the western allies. The media have got you lot whipped up into a right old frenzy, and you now lack the ability to think critically due to inherent biases. The funniest thing I have seen is cyril going line-by-line through years old banter on a football message board, trying to find random comments to smear people for exposing his fake news propaganda. You couldn't make this shit up!
    I knew you would be along to offer Bob support in his quest to declare John Worboys innocent.

    I'm not me being rich with the facts, it's more a case of you trying to find Worboys innocent because it suits your political agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I knew you would be along to offer Bob support in his quest to declare John Worboys innocent.

    I'm not me being rich with the facts, it's more a case of you trying to find Worboys innocent because it suits your political agenda.
    I know very well what I wrote cos I feckin' wrote it!

    And Boris became PM, so it's a double whammy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I know very well what I wrote cos I feckin' wrote it!

    And Boris became PM, so it's a double whammy!
    Ah well Boris won so accusing a couple of people on here of seeking to establish the innocence of a paedophile was totally justified in the end.

    By the way, go easy on the emojis, your mate LoM frowns upon them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    As the owner of the thought processes behind what I wrote, I know exactly what I meant. The last time I checked, we were not in some kind of Stalinist thought-control police state, although I get the feeling that some people on here wish that we were, so that they can attribute thoughts to others and establish guilt!
    You seem to be ecstatic that a group of high powered politicians got away with committing sexual abuse, which was covered up using funds obtained from the public purse.

    Here is one where you accused me of being ecstatic that politicians got away with sexual abuse crimes. As the owner of the thought processes behind what you wrote, what exactly did you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    You seem to be ecstatic that a group of high powered politicians got away with committing sexual abuse, which was covered up using funds obtained from the public purse.

    Here is one where you accused me of being ecstatic that politicians got away with sexual abuse crimes. As the owner of the thought processes behind what you wrote, what exactly did you mean?
    Cyril, draw the curtains, and go and have a lay down. You can thank me later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Interesting development.

    Purely by coincidence as well as the Bloomberg hack who tweeted something that was all over news outlets the Conservative Treehouse had their own take on it. In this version Peek was part of a Deep State Resistance team because he worked for General Adams, who once shared a stage with Barack Obama. They speculate that this "mole" may be the person passing intelligence to Adam Schiff that the White House has been withholding material evidence pertinent to the impeachment trial. It's not their strongest bit of work suggesting that he was spilling the beans on this I guess.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/

    For some bizarre reason the CTH failed to mention that he was part of Trump's transition team and was seen on appointment to his previous role on Iran and Iraq as a Trump loyalist and former Kushner employee who would do his bidding on Iran. But I guess you knew that from your research of source material you always do before posting this kind of false trail.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08...e-house-trump/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Interesting development.

    Purely by coincidence as well as the Bloomberg hack who tweeted something that was all over news outlets the Conservative Treehouse had their own take on it. In this version Peek was part of a Deep State Resistance team because he worked for General Adams, who once shared a stage with Barack Obama. They speculate that this "mole" may be the person passing intelligence to Adam Schiff that the White House has been withholding material evidence pertinent to the impeachment trial. It's not their strongest bit of work suggesting that he was spilling the beans on this I guess.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...investigation/

    For some bizarre reason the CTH failed to mention that he was part of Trump's transition team and was seen on appointment to his previous role on Iran and Iraq as a Trump loyalist and former Kushner employee who would do his bidding on Iran. But I guess you knew that from your research of source material you always do before posting this kind of false trail.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/08...e-house-trump/
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not so fast pal, we don't know who all the spies are yet, and the WH was infested with them. Some of them even infiltrated the election campaign team. I'm keeping my powder dry on this one, suffice to say he must have been up to no good?
    On the one statement of fact you made. Who are the spies that infiltrated the Trump Election campaign team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    On the one statement of fact you made. Who are the spies that infiltrated the Trump Election campaign team?
    They wouldn't be active if their identities were known, but Trump has been surrounded by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They wouldn't be active if their identities were known, but Trump has been surrounded by them.
    So not a statement of fact then. Given that you were showing off your googling skills in the Meghan Markle thread you would have thought that entering Trump election campaign spy would give you something.

    Wait...I googled it for you and there's the OIG report, the one you said for two years would spill the beans and bring down the house of cards which concluded:

    “We found no evidence that the FBI attempted to place any [confidential human sources] within the Trump campaign, or task any [confidential human sources] to report on the Trump campaign,”

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So not a statement of fact then. Given that you were showing off your googling skills in the Meghan Markle thread you would have thought that entering Trump election campaign spy would give you something.

    Wait...I googled it for you and there's the OIG report, the one you said for two years would spill the beans and bring down the house of cards which concluded:

    “We found no evidence that the FBI attempted to place any [confidential human sources] within the Trump campaign, or task any [confidential human sources] to report on the Trump campaign,”

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?
    I don't even know whose side this guy was on, but as usual you dive straight in completely ignoring the claims and instead try to attack the credibility of the source. No wonder you were so easily duped by the Steele Dossier & the Russian Collusion BS. Just stick to CNN mate you are a perfect match!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I don't even know whose side this guy was on, but as usual you dive straight in completely ignoring the claims and instead try to attack the credibility of the source. No wonder you were so easily duped by the Steele Dossier & the Russian Collusion BS. Just stick to CNN mate you are a perfect match!
    What claims you didn't post any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    What claims you didn't post any?
    You will always be a victim of propaganda cos you are too stupid to work things out for yourself. You keep on repeating the narratives from CNN & MSNBC, etc., and then you wonder why you always get it wrong. You are a legend in your own mind cyril, but it's fun to watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You will always be a victim of propaganda cos you are too stupid to work things out for yourself. You keep on repeating the narratives from CNN & MSNBC, etc., and then you wonder why you always get it wrong. You are a legend in your own mind cyril, but it's fun to watch!
    What is fun to watch is the lengths you will go to show that you have the gift of foresight rather than what is a a bit more obvious, a stooge for the daily churnings of the CTH.

    In this instance we are led to believe you just happened upon a tweet from a Bloomberg journalist which basically makes a factual statement that a White House official appointed only a couple of months ago was escorted from the premises. None of your usual nudge nudge wink wink innuendo with a link to a right wing website or meme.

    Those who know you are basically a CTH postbox head over there and there it is, their latest bombshell. Funnily enough halfway down to page is a link to a Bloomberg article by, gosh almighty, the very journalist who is your twitter source.

    The CTH speculates that the guy who was the third person appointed into the NSA Russia and Eastern European role in the last several months (the last two testified in the Congressional impeachment hearings) is either a spy for Obama/Clinton or even more interestingly two members of the Trump cabinet (Pompeo and O'Brien). Keep in mind that this was the guy appointed by Trump two months ago into a role right in the middle of the Ukraine issues that led to the impeachment.

    Rather than post this speculation and play the CTH cut and paste king much better to find an anodyne source where you can claim insight if it plays out your way or have no bullshit stick in the far more likely event that it doesn't I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    What is fun to watch is the lengths you will go to show that you have the gift of foresight rather than what is a a bit more obvious, a stooge for the daily churnings of the CTH.

    In this instance we are led to believe you just happened upon a tweet from a Bloomberg journalist which basically makes a factual statement that a White House official appointed only a couple of months ago was escorted from the premises. None of your usual nudge nudge wink wink innuendo with a link to a right wing website or meme.

    Those who know you are basically a CTH postbox head over there and there it is, their latest bombshell. Funnily enough halfway down to page is a link to a Bloomberg article by, gosh almighty, the very journalist who is your twitter source.

    The CTH speculates that the guy who was the third person appointed into the NSA Russia and Eastern European role in the last several months (the last two testified in the Congressional impeachment hearings) is either a spy for Obama/Clinton or even more interestingly two members of the Trump cabinet (Pompeo and O'Brien). Keep in mind that this was the guy appointed by Trump two months ago into a role right in the middle of the Ukraine issues that led to the impeachment.

    Rather than post this speculation and play the CTH cut and paste king much better to find an anodyne source where you can claim insight if it plays out your way or have no bullshit stick in the far more likely event that it doesn't I suppose.
    A fantastic explanation of why you are absolutely clueless. Here is how it usually goes ...

    Cyril: The Steele Dossier, Trump Russia Collusion, Obstruction of Justice, and Mueller prosecuting Trump are all True.

    CTH: No they're not.

    Outcome - Cyril loses again!

    Rinse and repeat

    BTW you would be mistaken to think that there is only one source in play here, and it does explan why your outlook is so narrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I don't even know whose side this guy was on, but as usual you dive straight in completely ignoring the claims and instead try to attack the credibility of the source. No wonder you were so easily duped by the Steele Dossier & the Russian Collusion BS. Just stick to CNN mate you are a perfect match!
    So, the answer to the question Cyril asked you is no then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So, the answer to the question Cyril asked you is no then.
    The answer is .. I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know, but I have enjoyed his many attempts at trying to discredit anybody that goes against his propaganda narratives. I'd certainly give the young man 10/10 for his BS ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The answer is .. I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know, but I have enjoyed his many attempts at trying to discredit anybody that goes against his propaganda narratives. I'd certainly give the young man 10/10 for his BS ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It would be irony if cyril had any success with his observations, and I didn't have any. Unfortunately, we are still waiting for the tables to be turned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The answer is .. I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know, but I have enjoyed his many attempts at trying to discredit anybody that goes against his propaganda narratives. I'd certainly give the young man 10/10 for his BS ability
    So in summary the question was:

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?

    and your answer is:

    I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know

    I can't think for a moment why people question your coherence and credibility.

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    Bloody corrupt lot those Ukrainians if you ask me .

    Why would anyone want to do business with them is a little worrying , if were allowed to say that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So in summary the question was:

    Any evidence that the Trump election team, transition team or administration has or is riddled with spies you want to share?

    and your answer is:

    I have never learned a single thing from Cyril that I didn't already know

    I can't think for a moment why people question your coherence and credibility.
    Your grandstanding may impress your friends, but it does very little for me. At least you are consistent when it comes to getting everything wrong. It must have been galling for you to witness me calling out the Russian Collusion hoax way back in 2017, and then seeing my assumptions proven correct. Ditto the Mueller investigation which you believed right up until the very last moment. The thing is you don't even learn from your mistakes, you just stumble into the next media created shit-fest with all guns blazing, expecting a different outcome which never quite materialises



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