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Originally Posted by life on mars
Inquiry into Hunter Biden has wrongly focused on Joe firing the prosecutor. Although that's relevant too, there is a much more glaring problem, which is that Hunter was hired to head Burisma legal unit but appears to have done no work. Prima facie evidence of corporate fraud. pic.twitter.com/KePY4L5LMl
— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) February 1, 2020
For someone who has repeatedly claimed he’s a Labour voterR and lamented the fact of their demise you don’t half sound like a right wing troll.
Therefore You’ll be treated like one. My advice to you is own your shit Re Brexit, Trumo Stop pretending to show balance as you look like a man who sees which way the fight is going in a school playground and then lifts the arm of the winner.
Relax, Brexit is going to turn out fine, although the future outlook for the EU won't be so great. I am left leaning myself, so I understand where lom is coming from. What's happening now had to be done. The EU, Clinton and Blair, etc., never saw people like you as a priority, they answered to the multinational corporations, hence the offshoring of so many stable jobs. This is being reversed in America, and hopefully the same thing will start to happen here.
It's always been a source of baffled amusement to me why obviously right wing posters are often so keen to let us know about their "left leaning" politics.
I'm a rule of law poster, obviously. You are the one who is trying to stick a label on me, just for pointing out that a specific group are undermining of the democratic process. If the roles were reversed, then I would be pointing out the other side. So using your logic, you must be in favour of banana republics, right?
Eh? I told you about why Nakhi Wells was being sold yesterday... Maybe you should check your medication if you don't see my football posts.
As for the rest... I have absolutely no idea why you're asking me questions in response to the questions I asked you. You made a point of getting upset about a photo that you have no context for. That's on you, LoM.
Love you xxx
That's your view only and a few your trolls , I find it incredible you accuse others of trolling , isn't that a classic selecting self guilt trolling moment in itself .
I'm simply not as narrow of thought as you are , I can't vote blindly for a party because it happens not to be a Tory , you vote or support its policy and benefit go society, not vote as a brand , or pin a rosette on a dog politics is not my politics ??
I guess you come over as , I will vote Labour no matter what they say or do ( troll )
I dislike the current Labour party policies I am preying its gets itself back to the centre with a leader Nandy or Starmer and forms a effective opposition , so yes I will criticise a party I have voted for it doesn't make one a Tory FFS . If makes one who wants strong sensible opposition politics , if we don't get that we have Tories for life ????????????? ( but you know that based on fact not my view as millions like me spoke at the last election)
Hear, hear, I can't wait to get rid of the Tories. Unfortunately, they were the only ones willing to deliver Brexit, and without that we will never be able to control our own destiny, so it's a price worth paying IMO. It's not even being done for our generation, its so the ones who follow can shape their own futures, and not be trapped inside an undemocratic EU.
You and your protege are getting very wound up about this aren't you? You've come up with a classic justification there - "I can't wait to get rid of the Tories" followed by the "but". I can't say what the but will be in 2024, but I reckon there will be one!
Also, according to Jacob Rees Mogg at least, an awful lot of the younger generation who wanted to stay in the EU won't be around to experience the good times if or when they come.
The Tories will have served their purpose if they can successfully get us out of the EU, and I said that ages ago. I probably won't be around when the benefits are of an independent Britain are fully realised, but at least the following generations won't be stifled by an autocratic political system.
Many socialist voters voted for Brexit , millions did in a Blair landslide, Clinton was forgiven and revered by the left in the UK , what your describing is not right wing left leaning socialist it's called centralism politics.
Iis pretty clear the further left our Labour party goes the more alienated it becomes , as Alan Johnson famously
described it on election night "" the party is like a student union protest group " .
In my interest in politics over the decades I've never know such a drift away from labour as we see now , with the fact they could not beat the feckless Boris , May and Cameron ???? and that is a very sad ( fact ) and unforgivable .
Perhaps this is the Labour strategy, to finallh kill off any centrealist policy, support or MP once and for all , and just play hit and run oppostion politics , instead of leading or being in power ??? ( Just have a look at how little stage time they gave Kier in the last election )
In my humble opinion having another option or opinion away from the current Labour project doesn't make one left leaning right winger ,that's a weakness and not broad enough of thought , I know many decent folk who think the same way, unfortunately they have been bullied away from this board .
I'm not levelling this at your goodself or others , it's simply a viewpoint that others may agree or discard with its called freedom of speech and views not a left leaning right winger.?????
Lots of words without addressing my point (to be fair, I didn't develop it much in my message). It's not that unusual to see plainly right wing opinions being preceded by the person making them mentioning their left wing credentials - it's as if, deep down, they don't like what they've become.
God knows , to be fair I did my best , I'm not a geat wordsmith as yourself and I will always be in your shadow. ( I guess your getting the point though and your reply was trying to be clever)
Again I will try again to the best of my limited intelligence and lack of appropriate composition and grammar : You
may have a right wing view about something like Immigration , because it closely effects one ,however they havc very strong views on socialist type views like workers rights and union rights that's not guilt if an opinion that differs ,I'm surprised your not getting this .
Hope that's less words .
[I]" Identity politics are now in play, its either right or wrong for me, so depending on what day of the week, what the topic is, i could be labelled Right or Left when we play the Identity politics game " ./I].
" Now when it comes to actual policy, I would be slighty left of centre, but not afraid to mix in some centre right policies if they benefited the majority of the people."
The above quotes are so spot on and probably represent the majority of the electoral in the country
Its a sadness we dont have a better balance of debate on the politics board , I guess the attacks have seen many off .
I am shocked the left leaners still keep wanting to badge centralist as Tories ??
I can only think they are very bitter after the election whitewash and there is nothing else to blame other than this and media intrusion ,however I am not shocked as they follow the same bullish narrow narrative still pursed by Monemtum , Corby ,Bailey ,Abbott ,Rayner ,Richard Burgon ,McDonald , and now that that dreadful Zarah Sultana , its always someones else's fault not there own , there is no appeal in that as they charge blind into the abyss .
Victims for victims sake , their message should deliver aspiration and hope not blame .
Northern Rail, left wing policy implented by a right wing government so if you think it's a good policy does that make you right or left when playing the identity politics game ��?
All policies are good policies if they work for the majority of the people, or they serve some useful purpose.
Look at them all trying to explain away their views - why do they feel the need to do it?
Is Senator Rand Paul far-right or is he standing up for the rule of law? How best would you describe his views?
[QUOTE=Wales-Bales;5045318]Is Senator Rand Paul far-right or is he standing up for the rule of law? How best would you describe his views?
It's almost like being back in the 3rd Form Debating Club:
Adolf Eichmann: Nazi or South American Adventurer
Jimmy Saville: Charity Campaigner and friend of Royalty and politicians or Paedophile Predator
Mao Tse Tung: Communist or Dedicated Rambler
That sort of thing
If you want to go around sticking labels on people then you should be able justify it. Bob has a history of refering to people who post about the rule of law as being far-right, so I'm just seeking clarification on the matter.
There may be some very worried
Kiddy Fiddlers
Human Traffickers
Drug Lords
You Crane company board directors
Corrupt (insert anything, pieces of shit)
feeling very vulnerable right now
Nanshi was shakin.
Shiff, Nadler looked ashen faced after last night's vote.
I'm too old now to worry about a bit of labelling from message board anons
I never held my nose looked the other way. Them can label all they want
Is labelling now the new behaviour of the left , how time's have changed that behaviour used to belong to others , back in the day most socialist used to nice and polite well reasoned folk , what's brought on this :There may be some very worried
Kiddy Fiddlers
Human Traffickers
Drug Lords
You Crane company board directors
Corrupt (insert anything, pieces of shit)
feeling very vulnerable right now
Nanshi was shakin.
Shiff, Nadler looked ashen faced after last night's vote.
I'm too old now to worry about a bit of labelling from message board anons
I never held my nose looked the other way. Them can label all they want
Bitterness ?
Old age ?
Blatant Rudeness?
Disappointment?
Bitterness?
Frustration?
Mixed Medication ?
Sexual Tension?
Hatred?
Lack of thought Balance?
Probably brainwashing since they all follow the same fake news media
Oh I see they're all in full preaching mode now are'nt they
bring up their left wing past before going into what they currently think. I can see no logical reason for doing this apart from, as mentioned earlier, a desire to feel better about themselves.
Of course, we all know it's well nigh impossible to get a direct answer out of Gluey, so I was never really expecting one from him as to why he does this, but I'll do what he finds impossible and answer a question I've been asked. Having now found out who Mr Paul is, it seems to me he is someone on the political right who can be called a "whistleblower", a term that, for me, can be a positive or negative one to apply to someone, but is, in essence, apolitical in derivation in that it can be used on someone at either end of the political spectrum. Judging by the way it's used by some on here though, it's a label reserved for the lowest of the low - you know, the ones who seem to be getting in such a state about me labelling them
I only post about rule of law issues in this particular forum, but there you go again with your labels, typical Alinsky tactics.Oh I see they're all in full preaching mode now are'nt they
bring up their left wing past before going into what they currently think. I can see no logical reason for doing this apart from, as mentioned earlier, a desire to feel better about themselves.
Of course, we all know it's well nigh impossible to get a direct answer out of Gluey, so I was never really expecting one from him as to why he does this, but I'll do what he finds impossible and answer a question I've been asked. Having now found out who Mr Paul is, it seems to me he is someone on the political right who can be called a "whistleblower", a term that, for me, can be a positive or negative one to apply to someone, but is, in essence, apolitical in derivation in that it can be used on someone at either end of the political spectrum. Judging by the way it's used by some on here though, it's a label reserved for the lowest of the low - you know, the ones who seem to be getting in such a state about me labelling them
Rand Paul is a libertarian who stands up for the rule of law and fights against government overreach, so basically anybody who doesn't agree with has to be labelled right-wing? That is very petty, and it's not even a valid argument.
BTW you're not a communist are you?
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