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    Do people really think there is no prejudice in society and someone who isn't white doesn't have a lot more issues for an "equivalent" person who is white?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Do you not think it exists?
    Not in the way you and others in this thread are making out.
    The majority of White people in the UK are welcoming to all folk of ethnic backgrounds, and the UK on the whole is a fair minded and welcoming place to live for all foreigners.
    Do you think there is such a thing as “ Black privilege in certain countries?
    I think Meghan is getting it tight , from mostly royalists who are blaming her for splintering the family, not because of the colour of her skin.
    The majority of folk over here, me included couldn’t give a flying **** what her and Harry do.
    The likes of you and Sludge, confuse how scummy the media can be (bugging a WHITE murdered girls phone for instance, hounding Megan Markel etc etc) with the way the rest of us conduct ourselves.

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    White privilege really helped the young girls in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford, Newcastle etc.

    White, working class boys have been left behind in educational terms for eons and
    affirmative action has been in place for a long time.

    Identity politics and those championing intersectionalism is what is toxic and what will continue pushing people to the right socially.

    Also calling Pritti Patel an “Uncle Tom” is abhorrent.
    I guess that Thomas Sowell is a “House Negro” because he has the audacity to hold libertarian views?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    White privilege really helped the young girls in Telford, Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford, Newcastle etc.

    White, working class boys have been left behind in educational terms for eons and
    affirmative action has been in place for a long time.

    Identity politics and those championing intersectionalism is what is toxic and what will continue pushing people to the right socially.

    Also calling Pritti Patel an “Uncle Tom” is abhorrent.
    I guess that Thomas Sowell is a “House Negro” because he has the audacity to hold libertarian views?
    No one is saying they haven't had it hard though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    No one is saying they haven't had it hard though.
    Well, we can get clothes to match the colour of skin, what else do we want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    No one is saying they haven't had it hard though.
    So why is white privilege now a thing?

    This is one of several pejorative tropes that have become synonymous with folk to show just how woke they are.

    It’s devisive and dangerous IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    So why is white privilege now a thing?

    This is one of several pejorative tropes that have become synonymous with folk to show just how woke they are.

    It’s devisive and dangerous IMO.
    Because a black person in the exact same position would probably have it even worse because of the prejudice they face in every day life.

    No one is saying white people are privilidged and have an easy life just that in western society it's even more difficult as a black person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Because a black person in the exact same position would probably have it even worse because of the prejudice they face in every day life.

    No one is saying white people are privilidged and have an easy life just that in western society it's even more difficult as a black person.
    Thats not what NYC is saying at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Thats not what NYC is saying at all.
    That is exactly what I’m saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    That is exactly what I’m saying.
    I think its best to let a bunch of white guys define racism and how it doesn't exist.

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    its only racist, for those who are desperate for it to be racist ,how calling someone 'uppity' is racist is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    its only racist, for those who are desperate for it to be racist ,how calling someone 'uppity' is racist is beyond me.
    It's only last week that you were using natural UK born as a synonym for white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    its only racist, for those who are desperate for it to be racist ,how calling someone 'uppity' is racist is beyond me.
    Are you serious? Uppity has a long history of being used as in a racist way. There is a long history of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Are you serious? Uppity has a long history of being used as in a racist way. There is a long history of this.
    A long history amongst a section of Americans some 100 years ago. Uppity in Britain means to be self important. Theres never been a racist connotation in the word in this country. Its more often than not used on white people in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    A long history amongst a section of Americans some 100 years ago. Uppity in Britain means to be self important. Theres never been a racist connotation in the word in this country. Its more often than not used on white people in this country.
    That doesn't mean it can't have racist connotations when used outside america though, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    That doesn't mean it can't have racist connotations when used outside america though, does it?
    By the same token it doesnt automatically mean its racist when its used on someone in a country where it means something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    A long history amongst a section of Americans some 100 years ago. Uppity in Britain means to be self important. Theres never been a racist connotation in the word in this country. Its more often than not used on white people in this country.
    Got agree here, I have been called uppity all my life, I have a huge failing I am arrogant (Uppity) and I do know it.
    In this country it means just that. Every uk dictionary says the same if Croesy want's to start using meanings used in america 100 years ago perhaps he should start with calling trousers pants. Different countries different meanings!

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...english/uppity

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    It is ridiculous.

    These days, if you say you're British, you'll be arrested and thrown in jail.

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    Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Are you serious? Uppity has a long history of being used as in a racist way. There is a long history of this.
    Where is this history chronicled?

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    Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    I have no opinion one way or the other about Harry and Meghan. I have no problem with whatever colour she is (contrary to the opinions of the usual suspects on this MB), all we can do as outsiders is simply look at her character and behaviour. If I say Meghan is behaving like a petulant teenager, is that racist then? If I say good luck to her, let her make her own life, is that ok or is that racist?

    It seems because I am a geriatric white male that automatically points to me being a racist. I presume no-one on this MB knows me personally because if they did, they would know that this is absolutely not the case.
    Starting threads like this and the one about Stormzy, then constantly trying to defend the fact that you're not racist and institutions in this country aren't racist, claiming that it's just people disagreeing with the opposite standpoint and playing the race card... That makes you look racially insensitive at the very least.

    None of us know if you're racist or not, but you're not helping yourself with the messages you're sending on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Starting threads like this and the one about Stormzy, then constantly trying to defend the fact that you're not racist and institutions in this country aren't racist, claiming that it's just people disagreeing with the opposite standpoint and playing the race card... That makes you look racially insensitive at the very least.

    None of us know if you're racist or not, but you're not helping yourself with the messages you're sending on here.
    I think hes crying wolf a bit too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Starting threads like this and the one about Stormzy, then constantly trying to defend the fact that you're not racist and institutions in this country aren't racist, claiming that it's just people disagreeing with the opposite standpoint and playing the race card... That makes you look racially insensitive at the very least.

    None of us know if you're racist or not, but you're not helping yourself with the messages you're sending on here.
    I have started many threads on this MB (32 according to the search function), usually initiated because I cannot believe what I am reading in the press or hearing on TV/radio.

    Several times I have used the phrase "I don't believe it" after one of my favourite fictional characters, Victor Meldrew. It just so happens that in the two threads you mention here the people involved are people of colour but the comments I made were nothing to do with their colour as you well know but choose to ignore. In the case of Stormzy, I dislike rap, don't consider it to be music, and was surprised to see that he was lauded the way he was at Glastonbury. If he were white then my opinions would have been exactly the same! I won't repeat myself here about Meghan Markel, as it has all been said - you are free to have your opinion of my thoughts as I have of yours.

    My posts are usually connected to Political Correctness, the absurdities of life or situations akin to the story of the Emperors New Clothes. Some recent examples are the Chris Brown’s clothes sale, the lack of a “Do not lean out of the carriage window” sign to blame for railway worker’s death, road tax evasion after scrapping the old tax disc system jumps to £100 million (surprise, surprise), and woman shoots boyfriend to increase their social media following.

    My other favourite “I don’t believe it” moments include: people who complain about the cost of replica football shirts (don’t buy them then), the cost of beer at the CCS (don’t buy it then), people who spend £100+ to have the latest trainers, and people who spend thousands on curved screen TVs where you can’t see the picture unless you sit within a certain narrow arc!

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    It’s amazing how the thoughts of an OP can become twisted by others as a thread progresses. Also it is noticeable that people who reply often ignore certain posts by the OP because they do not fit with their ideology.

    The title of this thread is: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently.

    Let us recap:
    There was a lady in the QT audience last night who made the statement to this effect, not me. It turns out she is a university lecturer and a race and ethnicity researcher according to the BBC news website. This was her opinion, which obviously differed from the actor guy on the panel.

    What no-one has mentioned yet in this thread is that there was a black lady in the audience and she said in her opinion, the treatment of Meghan Markel was not racist.
    Is this a classic case of someone being offended on behalf of someone else?

    Let me repeat my statements:

    Whatever my feelings about Meghan Markel are, they have nothing whatsoever to do with her colour. So if I make only positive comments about her that's fine? But if I criticise her for anything then it must be because she is of mixed race?
    This thread is specifically about Meghan Markel not people of colour in general. So compared to her, am I privileged, yes or no?
    I have no opinion one way or the other about Harry and Meghan. I have no problem with whatever colour she is. All we can do as outsiders is simply look at her character and behaviour. If I say Meghan is behaving like a petulant teenager, is that ok or is that racist then? If I say good luck to her, let her make her own life with Harry, is that ok or is that racist?

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    Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently

    Quote Originally Posted by Igovernor View Post
    Got agree here, I have been called uppity all my life, I have a huge failing I am arrogant (Uppity) and I do know it.
    In this country it means just that. Every uk dictionary says the same if Croesy want's to start using meanings used in america 100 years ago perhaps he should start with calling trousers pants. Different countries different meanings!

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...english/uppity
    Uppity: An uppity person behaves in an unpleasant way because they think that they are more important than they really are.

    Not sure what you're point is as it's obvious what the definition of the word is. The point being made by croesy is that it was used (and is still used to this day) against black people who didn't "know their place" in society and shouldn't act a certain way... Like they're second class citizens. So it's the connotations of the word that's important here.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/connotation

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