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  1. #7276

    Re: Coronavirus update

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...eaths-19946505

    Good news rates falling. RCT now under 50 per 100 000 a condition to be in Tier 1. But we are all still in tier 4.

    But with cases continuing to fall hospitality (even outdoors only) is not even being considered in the next 2 reviews in Wales.

    I dont think they should open for the Easter weekend but surely with low rates and vaccination going well after the Easter Break hospitality at least outdoors should have some hope for opening.

  2. #7277

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...eaths-19946505

    Good news rates falling. RCT now under 50 per 100 000 a condition to be in Tier 1. But we are all still in tier 4.

    But with cases continuing to fall hospitality (even outdoors only) is not even being considered in the next 2 reviews in Wales.

    I dont think they should open for the Easter weekend but surely with low rates and vaccination going well after the Easter Break hospitality at least outdoors should have some hope for opening.
    One can only assume they are going for almost zero covid like in NZ and Oz before re opening.....bit strange with the vaccine rollout going so well but I think everyone is now so brain dead and numb to it no one cares and probably won’t come out again anyway.....

  3. #7278

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    One can only assume they are going for almost zero covid like in NZ and Oz before re opening.....bit strange with the vaccine rollout going so well but I think everyone is now so brain dead and numb to it no one cares and probably won’t come out again anyway.....
    you only have to look at how quickly it shot up fro mid semptember to understand why they arent opening up very quickly yet

  4. #7279

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    you only have to look at how quickly it shot up fro mid semptember to understand why they arent opening up very quickly yet
    Yes but if all the people that get affected are now vaccinated, unlike last sept/Oct, we should be ok anyway. Transmission rates have plummeted. I imagine they will continue too as the over 50’s are vaccinated now

  5. #7280

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    https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj....campaign=usage

    As children have mild forms of disease and teachers are able to protect themselves effectively—their rate of infection is similar to that of adults of the same age and sex2—the biggest risk associated with schools lies in transmission of the virus from children to parents and grandparents vulnerable to developing severe forms of covid-19...
    The emerging consensus is that schools do not seem to be amplifiers of transmission, and that cases in schools simply reflect prevalence within the local community...

    Most European countries have introduced measures220 to reduce transmission such as cohorting of pupils, physical distancing, improving ventilation of indoor settings, moving physical activities outdoors, regular cleaning of surfaces, and improving hand hygiene and respiratory etiquette. These measures also need to apply beyond the classroom, particularly transport to and from school, during pick-up and drop-off times for both children and adults, and during meal times in the school day...

    The most important thing we can do to keep schools safe is to reduce transmission in the community particularly in areas of social deprivation. Reopening of schools should be phased, at a time when community transmission of the virus is controlled, and with primary school aged children prioritised for returning to the classroom to minimise both transmission within schools and the disruption caused by school closures. Although the roll-out of effective vaccines has begun, controlling transmission is even more important to keeping children in the classroom as viral variants with increased transmissibility gain hold in many countries around the world.
    Has there been any news regarding improving ventilation in schools/other enclosed areas yet?

    Has there been any news on prioritising deprived areas for the vaccine?

  6. #7281

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    WHO: Roadmap to improve and ensure good indoor ventilation in the context of COVID-19

    https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...=1&isAllowed=y
    If anyone wants a technical read into how to ensure good ventilation.

  7. #7282

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    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...atest-19987102

    No new deaths 45 per 100,000 now in Wales. One of the markers for Tier 1. We remain in Tier 4.

    Things looking far more positive.

  8. #7283

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...atest-19987102

    No new deaths 45 per 100,000 now in Wales. One of the markers for Tier 1. We remain in Tier 4.

    Things looking far more positive.
    yes, a couple more weeks and we should be safe to start opening up

  9. #7284

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    yes, a couple more weeks and we should be safe to start opening up
    Good old Mark Drakeford will make the easing of lockdown last a few months at least. First thing is for 'stay at home' to give way to 'stay local'. This will mean, come Easter, that the 400,000 of us that live in Cardiff and surrounds will have nowhere to go for a day out other than Cardiff Bay. Thank you Mark

  10. #7285

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Good old Mark Drakeford will make the easing of lockdown last a few months at least. First thing is for 'stay at home' to give way to 'stay local'. This will mean, come Easter, that the 400,000 of us that live in Cardiff and surrounds will have nowhere to go for a day out other than Cardiff Bay. Thank you Mark
    let's just agree that they're bringing the numbers down well at the moment and the one thing they must not do is cause another spike

  11. #7286

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    let's just agree that they're bringing the numbers down well at the moment and the one thing they must not do is cause another spike
    I realise that. England has a plan published for all to see. Wales 'plan' is done in 3 week chunks which keeps us in the dark. When we had the two week firebreak last year, the scientific advisors said three weeks would be much more beneficial. Drakeford replied that we couldn't afford three weeks because of the impact on Welsh business.
    The following month, on Dec 20th he put us in lockdown again and its still ongoing. Where is his interest in Welsh business now? He needs to publish a plan to give business and families some hope and quality of life.
    As an example Ive booked a haircut but my hairdresser won't know until Friday 12th whether he will be allowed to open on Monday 15th, just ridiculous for businesses to try to work on those sorts of timelines.

    Also 30% of the population of Wales have had a Covid jab. That's the main reason that things are improving throughout the UK. When the current lockdown started no one had received a vaccination. He has to be bold enough to realise that keeping levels down should be relatively straightforward as the jab roll out continues, and get focussed on trying to get the Welsh economy back on it's feet

  12. #7287

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Good old Mark Drakeford will make the easing of lockdown last a few months at least. First thing is for 'stay at home' to give way to 'stay local'. This will mean, come Easter, that the 400,000 of us that live in Cardiff and surrounds will have nowhere to go for a day out other than Cardiff Bay. Thank you Mark
    In Cardiff there is no difference really between stay home and stay local. You would think he’d know that.....there’s no way that people won’t be going wherever come Easter.

  13. #7288

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    In Cardiff there is no difference really between stay home and stay local. You would think he’d know that.....there’s no way that people won’t be going wherever come Easter.
    I think the stay local will be 3 weeks only if it comes in.

    They are looking at Tourism opening from Easter.

  14. #7289

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I think the stay local will be 3 weeks only if it comes in.

    They are looking at Tourism opening from Easter.
    Stay local for 3 weeks from the 15th March will take us past Easter

  15. #7290

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Stay local for 3 weeks from the 15th March will take us past Easter
    It’s going to be Monday 12th April isn’t it....keeps all the business in west wales struggling a bit longer if they miss Easter for a 2nd year in a row. That’s Westminster’s problem not Drakefords, he just concentrates on health not business.

  16. #7291

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    ‘Rishi Sunak was the main person responsible for Covid’s second wave’
    The latest extract from Jonathan Calvert and George Arbuthnott’s new book Failures of State looks at the grave cost of Boris Johnson’s reluctance to follow the advice of scientists in favour of measures to boost the economy

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...book-3ndvdq6ff
    Article in The Times.

  17. #7292

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Article in The Times.
    That's a book I'll be getting.

  18. #7293

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Stay local for 3 weeks from the 15th March will take us past Easter
    Yes your right.

    Next review would be the 2nd meaning if they act as they normally do next restrictions lifted for the 5th which would be Easter Monday.

  19. #7294

  20. #7295

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Yes your right.

    Next review would be the 2nd meaning if they act as they normally do next restrictions lifted for the 5th which would be Easter Monday.
    If they review on 2nd that's Good Friday, so hopefully they will meet earlier than that

  21. #7296

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    If they review on 2nd that's Good Friday, so hopefully they will meet earlier than that
    Worringly Im sure ive read somewhere its the 3rd but thought that was an error but as its Good Friday maybe theyve put it back a day.

  22. #7297

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1814714.html

    Third most expensive project in human history and it had little or no difference to the spread of the virus.
    what a joke.

    We an afford to throw away this money with no benefit, but we can't afford infrastructure spending unless it is in London

  23. #7298

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    If anyone wants a technical read into how to ensure good ventilation.
    Well I am certainly a fan of good ventilation....

  24. #7299

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It’s going to be Monday 12th April isn’t it....keeps all the business in west wales struggling a bit longer if they miss Easter for a 2nd year in a row. That’s Westminster’s problem not Drakefords, he just concentrates on health not business.
    Business isn't his thing is it - just asking the Government for a bigger handout each time.

  25. #7300

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    Hopefully we'll be opening up a bit more soon but this thread is a good one to keep in mind: https://twitter.com/hughes_eilir/sta...64408003162113

    Being outside, in the outdoors in #FreshAir is a lot safer,

    But spending time with others outside your household without social distancing in enclosed spaces is a higher risk- such as travelling in a car together, Of course the longer you spend in that environment the risk increases

    Remember that coronavirus is transmitted in the air via droplets and aerosols. It is #airborne. So wear the best mask you can get if you go into environments where you’re in close contact with people from outside your bubble. FFP2 standard masks offer very good protection

    The way the virus spreads hasn’t changed, but rather our understanding of it has greatly improved. Less emphasis on hand hygiene (although that is always good) and more on the environment you choose to spend time in and with whom.

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