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  1. #3776

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It's like a reflex action with some people isn't it. They act as if there is some sort of handbook on how Covid is dealt with when, in fact, we're all in uncharted territory and learning as we go along.
    It's buzzwords as well, media reporting something bad = media scaremongering bollocks

  2. #3777

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    It's the people living in their own bubble syndrome and if they don't like something they'll cheerfully dismiss it to make themselves feel better. Poor babes.

  3. #3778

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    More media bollocks scaremongering again. People who have been isolating since mid March were being told they might not have to after August 15th....how does that work?
    It is bollocks.It is scaremongering. It is hysteria. It's also doin' me bloody 'ead in'

  4. #3779

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    It is bollocks.It is scaremongering. It is hysteria. It's also doin' me bloody 'ead in'
    Some people just dont see it.....I’m not blaming the government I’m talking about the hysterical media.

  5. #3780

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Some people just dont see it.....I’m not blaming the government I’m talking about the hysterical media.
    The hysterical media forcing lockdown restrictions again on Joe public.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362

  6. #3781

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    The hysterical media forcing lockdown restrictions again on Joe public.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362
    And announced by the tories on Twitter - going to be difficult to blame the naughty media for this one!

  7. #3782

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    I'm still baffled as to what it was exactly in the BBC report I posted a link to which could qualify as "hysterical". It contained quotes from the medical officers from each of the home countries who agreed upon the decision, some from Government Ministers and a confirmation that the new policy was in line with World Health Organisation advice. As someone who agrees with the decision taken, I'm not taking an anti Tory position here and I note that Boris Johnson warned earlier this week that we were far from "out of the woods" yet when it came to the virus and yet it seems that it is just the "hysterical" media that is inflicting these new restrictions on some areas of England .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    The hysterical media forcing lockdown restrictions again on Joe public.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53602362
    The good thing about how the English Government have handled this is that they have come out of lockdown in a well constructed way. Opening schools, pubs, shops, gyms, travel abroad, tourists into the UK (no testing at airports, that would be crazy) and reducing the distancing to 1m (which effectively means nothing for many of us who can't tell the difference between 1m, 1 foot or 2m). All of these "easing of measures" because "we were beating the virus" were announced more or less daily at the end of June and the start of July. Because of this reasoned approach, the Government can pinpoint the cause of the spike to one of about 10 things.

    "Why isn't Drakeford opening up the pubs?" cried our thirsty friends. One bright chap from Smallsville spent an enlightened trip to the far off land of Bishop's Stortford, where cafes were bustling, and pubs were full.

  9. #3784

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    The good thing about how the English Government have handled this is that they have come out of lockdown in a well constructed way. Opening schools, pubs, shops, gyms, travel abroad, tourists into the UK (no testing at airports, that would be crazy) and reducing the distancing to 1m (which effectively means nothing for many of us who can't tell the difference between 1m, 1 foot or 2m). All of these "easing of measures" because "we were beating the virus" were announced more or less daily at the end of June and the start of July. Because of this reasoned approach, the Government can pinpoint the cause of the spike to one of about 10 things.

    "Why isn't Drakeford opening up the pubs?" cried our thirsty friends. One bright chap from Smallsville spent an enlightened trip to the far off land of Bishop's Stortford, where cafes were bustling, and pubs were full.
    ..and they still are. The good doctors and scientists who now run the 6th largest country on a day-to-day basis are delighting in a Government that reacts with remarkable speed to action anything and everything they are guided, nay instructed to do, without question or scrutiny. The increase in testing has identified more 'new cases', Leicester's peak for instance was consistent with a testing regime carried out in late June. But the Scientists [I don't think you can refer to the 'government' at the moment', have vitually banned UK citizens going to holiday destinations that have and infection rate of 1.2% compared to 14.6% in the UK, and had NO recorded cases yesterday. It is truly. totally, utter madness..

  10. #3785

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    ..and they still are. The good doctors and scientists who now run the 6th largest country on a day-to-day basis are delighting in a Government that reacts with remarkable speed to action anything and everything they are guided, nay instructed to do, without question or scrutiny. The increase in testing has identified more 'new cases', Leicester's peak for instance was consistent with a testing regime carried out in late June. But the Scientists [I don't think you can refer to the 'government' at the moment', have vitually banned UK citizens going to holiday destinations that have and infection rate of 1.2% compared to 14.6% in the UK, and had NO recorded cases yesterday. It is truly. totally, utter madness..
    It's a fair point. I've long said that cancer kills too many people - we simply have to stop testing for it and get those numbers down. Stupid doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    ..and they still are. The good doctors and scientists who now run the 6th largest country on a day-to-day basis are delighting in a Government that reacts with remarkable speed to action anything and everything they are guided, nay instructed to do, without question or scrutiny. The increase in testing has identified more 'new cases', Leicester's peak for instance was consistent with a testing regime carried out in late June. But the Scientists [I don't think you can refer to the 'government' at the moment', have vitually banned UK citizens going to holiday destinations that have and infection rate of 1.2% compared to 14.6% in the UK, and had NO recorded cases yesterday. It is truly. totally, utter madness..
    By "6th largest" I assume you are talking about the economy. Which is a bit odd seeing as this is not an economic crisis, but a medical one.

    But, in your enlightened madness you have come up with an ingenious plan, a plan which probably would be accepted by the loonies in the Tory party.

    If we reduce testing, we will reduce the number of "new cases" (your quotations, not mine). If we reduce testing to 0 then, "new cases" will be at 0 and the whole thing will just go away.

    It is truly, totally, utter brilliance.

    There is little common sense in opening everything up in a short period of time (as the Government have done, the Welsh and Scottish Governments receive the exact same scientific evidence and interpret it differently to Johnson, but similarly to each other). In doing so, new spikes are oddly being attributed to people gathering at home indoors.

    This is no longer allowed. So, instead of John popping into Ben's house to have a chat and a drink, John and Ben are now popping into the pub with hundreds of others, generating tax revenues and, potentially, increasing the chances of a spike.

    Now that is truly, totally, utter madness.

    It's not very difficult to see where this started to unravel. The Government were, in my opinion, getting it right when they were following the science. However, Cummings got caught acting like the privileged elite he tells us to vote against and, instead of acting, the Government went on singing "It's Good News Week" and distracting the media's attention from an obvious affront to the rules that beaten housewives and single parents had to abide by.

    I am quite happy to be living in "Smallsville" at present.

  12. #3787

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    "this is not an economic crisis, but a medical one."

    Yes, you really are living in Smallsville..

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    "this is not an economic crisis, but a medical one."

    Yes, you really are living in Smallsville..
    And what caused the economic crisis?

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    Johnson's briefing is tragically hopeless. There is a spike, but the controls are to stop people socialising in houses, but to socialise in settings where money is spent.

    Every time he speaks, we lose clarity. Well, whatever clarity we had remaining.

  15. #3790

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    He's a complete idiot and doesn't know what the feck he's doing.
    More experts are coming around to the Swedish model (even if they did really mess up with the homes for the elderly)
    People have worked through it and a lot of businesses have survived. Plenty have gone bust of course but it could have been worse.

  16. #3791

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    The rise in new cases in the UK continues, up to almost 900 today when it was around 500 earlier in the month.

  17. #3792

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    saw a video yesterday regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine in treating covid patients in the states . some doctors were claiming that this drug along with a few others is an effective treatment in some cases .It first went out on all social media platforms and is claimed the largest viral video ever on social media yet was pulled off twitter , face book etc when it was getting millions of hits

    today the doctor that spear headed this was fired from her job . why can't doctors who treat patients have an opinion and freedom to share there medical views with the world ?

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/hydrox...g-doctor-fired

  18. #3793

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    im calling fake news
    trump would never allow a great business opportunity to be fired

  19. #3794

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    More hysterical media nonsense, needlessly keeping the masses from must visit establishments like ten pin bowling alleys.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53609467

    Pubs open, ten pin bowling alleys closed. I’m sure there’s a reason for it somewhere? Perhaps just to keep Goats happy?

  20. #3795

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    Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)
    Interestingly, and for the first time, this week two colleagues in England asked the same question about what we were allowed to do/not do. One commented that he'd have more confidence living in Wales with the steps being taken; the other commented that things were crazy in England "it's as if it's all gone away, but here it is on its way back again".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    More hysterical media nonsense, needlessly keeping the masses from must visit establishments like ten pin bowling alleys.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53609467

    Pubs open, ten pin bowling alleys closed. I’m sure there’s a reason for it somewhere? Perhaps just to keep Goats happy?
    In England, you cannot go to a mate's house. But, you can meet all of your mates in the pub. But Bowling Alleys (where I genuinely think Social distancing would be amazingly easy to do) frequented by younger people (the ones going back to school in September who, we are told, are at low risk of spreading the virus) - you can't meet up there.

    How much tax revenue is generated by pubs, I wonder cynically.

  23. #3798

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)
    Well, in comparison with Bishop Stortford...

  24. #3799

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    In England, you cannot go to a mate's house. But, you can meet all of your mates in the pub. But Bowling Alleys (where I genuinely think Social distancing would be amazingly easy to do) frequented by younger people (the ones going back to school in September who, we are told, are at low risk of spreading the virus) - you can't meet up there.

    How much tax revenue is generated by pubs, I wonder cynically.
    As lockdown has eased there’s a number of anomalies in the guidance and restrictions which are questionable. The issue I’m having is these anomalies are not exactly promoting the behaviour the restrictions are aiming to achieve.

    That said, I feel for England as the bumbling bean bag has wannked his way to this lack of clarity.

    Economically, he’s unable to close the pubs due to the fact furlough is ending. Again Boris spunking money on a scheme which will result in very little is becoming a trade mark of any of his public office tenures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)
    Wales is still shut....I believe some shops have opened but no one goes to them anyway.

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