Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[cyril evans awaydays]

I doubt Brexit will get in the way of this. Both UK and Eu Pharma have pushed for mutual recognition of medicines post Brexit, and it's a two way street with UK supplying many critical medicines to Europe. Pharmaceuticals are generally small ie don't take up much space, so transporting a lot of product isn't usually an issue. As a cold chain product the vaccine will probably be flown into UK.

Phew. One less thing to worry about. I guess that £100 m backstop to the backstop contract that Grant Shapps was promising will sort this out. The bit I struggled with was that if we are holding the EU hostage because we hold all the cards, when they inevitably fold, what bits of trade that we don't think as essential as life saving vaccines will we think are essential in a couple of months time?

[Elwood Blues]

Welsh names are nowhere near as prominent in the list in this link as they were previously, but I notice there has been an increase in cases in Blaenau Gwent over the past few days while the figures are lower everywhere else.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...navirus-uk-map

You'd like to think that they can still come down a fair bit yet (I notice the R is below 1 now in Northern Ireland after a four week lockdown that has just been extended), but, after the debate as to whether a Welsh lockdown was necessary about a month ago, I think there may well turn out to be one about whether it was long enough?

I notice that Cardiff has gone up by 1 today. A tiny amount but it is the first rise for many days.

Hope it doesn't carry on tomorrow.

My concern was that they didn't keep the area lockdowns where necessary after the circuit break,

Merthyr for example remained very high straight after ( don't know where it is now) and of course people from Merthyr were able to go outside the area for the first time in weeks. Many may well have come to work in Cardiff, so it wiil be interesting to see the Cardiff toll again in a couple of weeks

[Heisenberg]

Pfizer will produce the vaccine for UK in Puurs, Belgium, just across the water literally. It will be transported in Pfizer designed specialist boxes containing up to 1,000 vials to ensure its kept at the right temperature. It'll probably be the first one we get.

The Oxford AZ one has yet to publish data so will probably be a little way behind Pfizer. The Moderna vaccine will not be supplied to UK until spring. The other vaccines UK have ordered are some way behind and just entering large scale clinical studies, so my guess we'll see them in the Summer.

Is that like America is literally "just across the water"?

[goats]

I mentioned that the Pfizer one will be made in Belgium. I forget to mention that the Oxford/AZ vaccine will be made in India, not in the UK.
Both companies have already produced millions of doses at commercial risk, so that they can supply just as soon as they get approval

No doubt if they’ve already produced millions, they will already be here in the UK though?

[cyril evans awaydays]

No doubt if they’ve already produced millions, they will already be here in the UK though?

If you start a sentence with No Doubt , best end it with an exclamation rather than a question mark!

[lardy]

I doubt Brexit will get in the way of this. Both UK and Eu Pharma have pushed for mutual recognition of medicines post Brexit, and it's a two way street with UK supplying many critical medicines to Europe. Pharmaceuticals are generally small ie don't take up much space, so transporting a lot of product isn't usually an issue. As a cold chain product the vaccine will probably be flown into UK.

Yes, they will probably just take the other motorways in Kent, rather than the one that has seven miles of stationary trucks.

[goats]

If you start a sentence with No Doubt , best end it with an exclamation rather than a question mark!

But it’s the current government that make me question everything, even though it’s a UK company and UK Gov cash.....

[lisvaneblue]

Phew. One less thing to worry about. I guess that £100 m backstop to the backstop contract that Grant Shapps was promising will sort this out. The bit I struggled with was that if we are holding the EU hostage because we hold all the cards, when they inevitably fold, what bits of trade that we don't think as essential as life saving vaccines will we think are essential in a couple of months time?

Who said anything about holding EU hostage? Just as well the AZ/Oxford vaccine is coming from India, you can sleep easy.

[the other bob wilson]

I notice that Cardiff has gone up by 1 today. A tiny amount but it is the first rise for many days.

Hope it doesn't carry on tomorrow.

My concern was that they didn't keep the area lockdowns where necessary after the circuit break,

Merthyr for example remained very high straight after ( don't know where it is now) and of course people from Merthyr were able to go outside the area for the first time in weeks. Many may well have come to work in Cardiff, so it wiil be interesting to see the Cardiff toll again in a couple of weeks

Those people from Merthyr would probably have been coming to Cardiff to work during the firebreak though. If you travelled to Merthyr today, your chances of catching Covid off a resident would be much higher than catching it from someone from Cardiff on a day trip wouldn't they, so I don't understand why the opposite should apply to me if I came to Cardiff as someone who, as far as I'm aware, does not have the virus currently I'd be far more likely to catch it off someone from Cardiff than someone who was down from the valleys for the day.

I don't get the thinking behind the line that if Cardiff sees an increase in cases in the coming weeks it must be down to people from other areas close by bringing the infection with them. The figures for the Rhondda are bad, but, generally, not as bad as Merthyr's, if cases start to rise again where I live in the coming weeks, I won't be putting that down to people from Merthyr coming here.

[the other bob wilson]

More good vaccine news;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54986208

[MOZZER2]

mass testing on the way to Merthyr

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54986552

[goats]

mass testing on the way to Merthyr

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54986552

They will still pop around each other’s houses for a cup of tea though won’t they?

[Rjk]

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Seems that we are still making good progress with numbers going down.

What will determine how successful this was now will be how many more days we continue to see numbers drop, and then how quickly they start to rise again afterwards.

[Rjk]

mass testing on the way to Merthyr

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54986552

To my non-expert eye it looks as though mass testing could maybe be better performed elsewhere, places like Bridgend, Neath and Blaunau Gwent have more cases and more positive % tests, Merthyr already seems to be dropping

[Freitag 4.17]

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Seems that we are still making good progress with numbers going down.

What will determine how successful this was now will be how many more days we continue to see numbers drop, and then how quickly they start to rise again afterwards.

Have a feeling they will be on the rise again before Novembers out. Think we should have done a month not a fortnight to safeguard Chrimbo..

[Jordi Culé]

They will still pop around each other’s houses for a cup of tea though won’t they?

Cup of tea.

Can of lager and a line of beak more like.

[the other bob wilson]

Encouraging news about the Oxford University vaccine;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54993652

[LeningradCowboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54989021

It will take "a number of years" for NHS waiting times in Wales to recover to pre-coronavirus levels, the organisation's boss has warned.

[goats]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54989021

It will take "a number of years" for NHS waiting times in Wales to recover to pre-coronavirus levels, the organisation's boss has warned.

My mother in law is wait8ng for a hip op, it was about 18 months to 2 years before this....god knows what it will be now

[the other bob wilson]

Hopes that another drug to successfully treat critically ill patients has been discovered;-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...atients-in-icu

[Jordi Culé]

My mother in law is wait8ng for a hip op, it was about 18 months to 2 years before this....god knows what it will be now

I thought you couldn't stand your mother in law and was chuffed that you wouldn't be seeing her this Christmas.

I would've thought her hobbling around her house and alone would see you reaching for another lager?

[goats]

I thought you couldn't stand your mother in law and was chuffed that you wouldn't be seeing her this Christmas.

I would've thought her hobbling around her house and alone would see you reaching for another lager?

No. I’m buzzing about having a mellow Christmas for the first time ever, not having to leave the house etc....but I don’t wish pain on anyone, even croesy

[Croesy Blue]

No. I’m buzzing about having a mellow Christmas for the first time ever, not having to leave the house etc....but I don’t wish pain on anyone, even croesy

I don’t think I’ve ever even spoken to you on here, I don’t even recognise your username. such a weird obsession

[Jordi Culé]

No. I’m buzzing about having a mellow Christmas for the first time ever, not having to leave the house etc....but I don’t wish pain on anyone, even croesy

Sorry butty.

I'll make it clear you haven't wished pain on her. She already has it so your conscience is clear.

I'll admit the thought of not talking to my sister in law makes me feel ecstatic.

[goats]

I don’t think I’ve ever even spoken to you on here, I don’t even recognise your username. such a weird obsession

Kin right....I never know who the f is who as I’ve said on the trump thread, but your special, just like your mummy said.....