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Thread: Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

  1. #6751

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    Boris is responsible for England, Drakeford for Wales. Why are we even discussing England on this forum. Its just Tory bashing and nothing more.
    Boo hoo.

  2. #6752
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    PPE, sporting events, delaying lockdown, playing down the seriousness of the virus ("I was shaking hands with Covid patients" etc") care homes, track and trace.

    There's another 7 things off the top of my head.
    how does any of that affect health policy in Wales?

  3. #6753
    Feedback
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    That's a shiithousing response.

    We'll try this again.

    What do you think (in your own words) Johnson was apologising for?

    Yours in anticipation.
    I'll answer - for being a ****

  4. #6754
    Feedback
    Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Rubbish.

    If you think Johnson and his actions have no consequence on Wales you are seriously deluded.

    Cummimgs , accusing the Labour leader of trying to ruin Christmas , have a merry little Christmas , no furlough extension then a U turn , over promising.

    The most useless govt in history with serious out of depth brexiteers in charge of departments where they are completely out of their depth.
    the response to the pandemic by all 4 home nations has been terrible. Lets not kid ourselves that any home nation has done better than any other.

    no one had experience of handling this, its new to everyone, even that idiot Drakeford.

  5. #6755
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I don’t think anyone is saying it is the fault of any one person but do you seriously think the U.K. government aren’t responsible for what’s happened in the U.K.?
    no, thats excusing the 3 other devolved administrations for their own shortcomings.

  6. #6756
    Heisenberg
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    Boris is responsible for England, Drakeford for Wales. Why are we even discussing England on this forum. Its just Tory bashing and nothing more.
    Boris is Prime Minister of the United Kingdom mate.

    For further information, please go to www.borisjohnsonukprimeminister.gov.uk

  7. #6757
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Boo hoo.
    well you've won the internet today with that response

  8. #6758
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Boris is Prime Minister of the United Kingdom mate.

    For further information, please go to www.borisjohnsonukprimeminister.gov.uk
    well yes, but that doesn't answer the question. This is a health issue and as such in Wales the issue wrests with the Welsh government.

  9. #6759

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    I'll answer - for being a ****
    If he was, it's one of the few occasions Johnson was being sincere and truthful.

  10. #6760
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    how does any of that affect health policy in Wales?
    It's 9.30 and you're clearly up for being argumentative and contrary today.

    I'll humour you though...

    Because they obviously effect health policy, you clart.

    They resulted in spikes in cases, lack of safety equipment for NHS staff, thousands of deaths in care homes and the failed track and trace (aka Servo track and trace) meant thousands of people not being notified that they should isolate.

    If you think they don't have any implication on health policy... Actually, we know that you know the truth but will be an argumentative tit for the sake of it.

    Textbook Feedy.

  11. #6761
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    well yes, but that doesn't answer the question. This is a health issue and as such in Wales the issue wrests with the Welsh government.
    There it is. It's a health issue, apparently.

    Not an education issue. Not a welfare issue. It's just a health issue.

    Called it.

  12. #6762

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    health and health policy is a devolved matter. Wales is performing worse than England so I'd be interested to hear your views on the utterly shite Mark Drakeford and Welsh Labour.
    Well, health is a devolved matter until the WAG wants to have a firebreak lockdown at a time when the UK, not English, Government is defying Sage advice by not having one and, furthermore,not extending the furlough scheme to allow the WAG to have the early autumn lockdown they wanted, so there is a clear example of Welsh, apparently devolved, health policy being dictated by Uk Government financial policy.
    You Johnson apologists want it both ways, you bang on about the Union and how we’re all one country, but, as soon as you want to defend the Conservative and Unionist party, you talk as if there is no need for the independence parties in Scotland and Wales because those countries are already separate entities!

  13. #6763

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    The Welsh government own our largest airport. What did they do differently that didn't happen in Gatwick or Heathrow?
    No one actually uses our 'largest airport'

    Seriously, closing Heathrow and Gatwick would have a much greater impact on Wales' virus figures than closing Cardiff.

  14. #6764

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    I think feedback should take the time to read this CNN report, as you get very little objectivity from a compliant UK media.
    https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1354...715243521?s=19

  15. #6765

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Politicians didn’t listen to the scientists

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55820178

  16. #6766

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    People need to realise this being a "health issue" is a result of the failures not the cause of it.

    I can't imagine being so tribal about politics that I'd want to defend the current government.

  17. #6767
    Feedback
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    There it is. It's a health issue, apparently.

    Not an education issue. Not a welfare issue. It's just a health issue.

    Called it.
    its very much a health issue. To suggest its caused by going to school or because you receive tax credits is outright bizarre.

  18. #6768
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    It's 9.30 and you're clearly up for being argumentative and contrary today.

    I'll humour you though...

    Because they obviously effect health policy, you clart.

    They resulted in spikes in cases, lack of safety equipment for NHS staff, thousands of deaths in care homes and the failed track and trace (aka Servo track and trace) meant thousands of people not being notified that they should isolate.

    If you think they don't have any implication on health policy... Actually, we know that you know the truth but will be an argumentative tit for the sake of it.

    Textbook Feedy.
    I'm not disagreeing, I'm merely pointing out that the responsibility for all of that in Wales is with the Welsh government. That's the bit you can't (or don't want to) grasp.

  19. #6769
    Heisenberg
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    its very much a health issue. To suggest its caused by going to school or because you receive tax credits is outright bizarre.
    I'll bite.

    If it's just a health issue, why aren't PHE and the NHS in charge of making all of the decisions regarding the pandemic?

  20. #6770

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    its very much a health issue. To suggest its caused by going to school or because you receive tax credits is outright bizarre.
    It's become a health issue due to all the other failures. There is no argument to be had with that.

    Why have so many other island nations managed to stop it becomming "very much a health issue"?

  21. #6771
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Well, health is a devolved matter until the WAG wants to have a firebreak lockdown at a time when the UK, not English, Government is defying Sage advice by not having one and, furthermore,not extending the furlough scheme to allow the WAG to have the early autumn lockdown they wanted, so there is a clear example of Welsh, apparently devolved, health policy being dictated by Uk Government financial policy.
    You Johnson apologists want it both ways, you bang on about the Union and how we’re all one country, but, as soon as you want to defend the Conservative and Unionist party, you talk as if there is no need for the independence parties in Scotland and Wales because those countries are already separate entities!
    Johnson's a Tory **** and has handled the pandemic in England pretty poorly. That does not excuse Mark Drakeford and his shit show in Wales.

    you even say yourself that Drakeford enacted our own firebreak lockdown, so why was Drakeford sat on his arse doing nothing when Johnson wasn't listening to Sage advice. Why didn't Drakeford act? We could have had a lockdown but Drakeford chose not to.

  22. #6772

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    its very much a health issue. To suggest its caused by going to school or because you receive tax credits is outright bizarre.
    Imagine being so compelled to defend the Tories that you come out with this.

  23. #6773
    Feedback
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    I'll bite.

    If it's just a health issue, why aren't PHE and the NHS in charge of making all of the decisions regarding the pandemic?
    I'm pretty sure the DHSS dictates the policy that we are seeing, it is why so many in England quite correctly criticise Matt Hancock

  24. #6774
    Heisenberg
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    I'm not disagreeing, I'm merely pointing out that the responsibility for all of that in Wales is with the Welsh government. That's the bit you can't (or don't want to) grasp.
    Ummm... Who is in charge of track and trace? PPE? "Putting a protective ring around care homes"? Delaying the initial lockdown? Defending high profile rule breakers and destroying public trust? Deciding whether Cheltenham festival and other high profile sporting events could go ahead?

    Nothing devolved in that lot.

  25. #6775
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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    No one actually uses our 'largest airport'

    Seriously, closing Heathrow and Gatwick would have a much greater impact on Wales' virus figures than closing Cardiff.
    I use it, it was open an awful lot across the summer and into autumn - I used to fly from their 3 or 4 times a week.

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