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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Nice graphs. Have you got one which shows how many European countries were completely quarantined during Ebola etc? Or is that a lie and all is fine in Italy?

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    Covid-19 - worldwide deaths, 4,267. Covid-19 mentions in the media, 1.1 billion.

    Or 1 Covid-19 death = 257,000 mentions in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    There is some evidence that Spanish flu was just regular seasonal flu, and it was only the fact that so many people were malnourished and living in very poor conditions as a result of the great war that made it so deadly
    That would make sense , as good nourishment provides the necessary benefits to ones immune system , along with poor sanitation it would kill anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    well my lad has been un well for the last 5 days with flu like symptons with temperatures up to 39 degrees etc so thought we would get him checked out today

    Following advice to ring 111 and went through various questions . in a nutshell the 2 main things they ask if you've been abroad to an infected area like china in the last 2 weeks and do you know if you've been in contact with anyone who has the virus

    We answered NO to both questions so they said to ring your local GP so we ring the GP and they referred us back to ring 111 as they don't want potential virus carriers in surgeries which is what I would expect

    basically if you've been abroad to an infected and got the symptons you will get tested .If you don't fall into that bracket tough luck

    Could be hundreds if not thousands walking around with the virus without even knowing see the daily mail picking up on this today


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ed-abroad.html

    That's just it. Some of those who have tested positive for it liken it to a mild cold. I have mild cold like symptoms, maybe I have it. If I do, then I am about to make a full recovery but I won't be in the stats. Nor will your lad. People are reading far too much into the stats.

    All I have been doing is using tissues and washing my hands if I sneeze or cough. I've also slept in a separate bed to my boyfriend. It's all about not spreading illness and I am not behaving any differently to any other time I have a cold. And, if I do get Coronavirus, I'll do it all again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Nice graphs. Have you got one which shows how many European countries were completely quarantined during Ebola etc? Or is that a lie and all is fine in Italy?
    What is the point you are trying to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    On the news just now, if you in Italy and are over 65 in the worst affected areas, no chance of life-saving care eg heart attack, stroke. Complete lack of IC beds and staff under severe strain.Their health care system can't cope. Boris "wash your hands" Johnson will sort it out, don't worry.
    Those words of "let's spend it on the NHS instead" will come back to bite him on the arse, whether our death rate is 10, 100, 1000 or more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
    Have an italian work mate she says the situation there is much worse than what we are being told.
    Fascinating. Did she provide proof, are you going to elaborate, or is it another one from the rumour mill?

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    What is the point you are trying to make?
    He's bonkers and should be kept away from the internet for his own good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    What is the point you are trying to make?
    The point I'm trying to make is that although some people like to put graphics up saying comparing it to other diseases which weren't reported in the same way, the fact remains that countries across the world are taking unprecedented steps to combat it which suggests that isn't the media lie that they suggest.

    Yes, guy from school on Facebook who never left my home town, congratulations on sharing the fact that you know that flu currently kills a lot more than the coronavirus. I'm going to take more notice of the actions of governments advised by medical experts though ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    He's bonkers and should be kept away from the internet for his own good!
    post of the year

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    The point I'm trying to make is that although some people like to put graphics up saying comparing it to other diseases which weren't reported in the same way, the fact remains that countries across the world are taking unprecedented steps to combat it which suggests that isn't the media lie that they suggest.

    Yes, guy from school on Facebook who never left my home town, congratulations on sharing the fact that you know that flu currently kills a lot more than the coronavirus. I'm going to take more notice of the actions of governments advised by medical experts though ta
    OK, fair enough and I agree that it is pointless comparing this with cancer and diabetes as some are doing.

    However, I also agree that the news outlets are not giving out many facts other than number of cases, number of deaths. Number of recoveries is also important.

    Also, I'd like to hear more from those that have recovered. Were they very sick, were they not sick at all?

    And, I'd like to know more about the cases in Italy, are people's symptoms getting worse - i.e. is the illness mutating. The death rate in Italy is 39% of closed cases, worldwide that is 6% but that is factoring in the Chinese lies, Iranian lies. South Korea is 19%. UK is 25% at the moment. But, is that because we don't consider a person recovered until they test negative etc, or is it because there is something else going on?

    Once I get all these sorts of facts, I can make a decision about whether or not this is something I need to lose sleep over.

    I also think some countries should be left off these stats because their accuracy is in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    OK, fair enough and I agree that it is pointless comparing this with cancer and diabetes as some are doing.

    However, I also agree that the news outlets are not giving out many facts other than number of cases, number of deaths. Number of recoveries is also important.

    Also, I'd like to hear more from those that have recovered. Were they very sick, were they not sick at all?

    And, I'd like to know more about the cases in Italy, are people's symptoms getting worse - i.e. is the illness mutating. The death rate in Italy is 39% of closed cases, worldwide that is 6% but that is factoring in the Chinese lies, Iranian lies. South Korea is 19%. UK is 25% at the moment. But, is that because we don't consider a person recovered until they test negative etc, or is it because there is something else going on?

    Once I get all these sorts of facts, I can make a decision about whether or not this is something I need to lose sleep over.

    I also think some countries should be left off these stats because their accuracy is in question.
    Italy is on lockdown and you want further proof before you make a decision on whether you should lose any sleep

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    9 more cases in Wales, most linked to a Port Talbot case. 15 cases in Wales, population 3,139,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Italy is on lockdown and you want further proof before you make a decision on whether you should lose any sleep
    Yes, in short. Why should the action of a single Government make me more or less worried than the actual stats.

    For example, someone who tested positive said it was like a cold, another like the flu. The question, why is the death rate so high in Italy is a valid one. Are significantly more older people getting the disease there for example. I could run out and buy loads of loo roll and pasta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingers View Post
    An interesting take on how America are (not) going to cope
    https://apple.news/AyuaHQhxeTSuTR9CI0J5cuA
    I heard somewhere earlier that there are only 70 000 testing kits in America - 1 for every 5000 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Yes, in short. Why should the action of a single Government make me more or less worried than the actual stats.

    For example, someone who tested positive said it was like a cold, another like the flu. The question, why is the death rate so high in Italy is a valid one. Are significantly more older people getting the disease there for example. I could run out and buy loads of loo roll and pasta.
    Health service is crippled by it by the sounds of it. I'm not worried for myself but both my parents are both in the high risk category for various reasons. There hasn't really been any specific advice for more at risk people, it's almost like the government wants them to die off.

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    Apparantly this virus has a fatty substance.Washing hands with washing up liquid is just as good as soap.Fairy is probably the best because it lasts longer and you can make a rocket out of the bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    I heard somewhere earlier that there are only 70 000 testing kits in America - 1 for every 5000 people.
    A textbook approach according to one specific poster on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    9 more cases in Wales, most linked to a Port Talbot case. 15 cases in Wales, population 3,139,000.
    15 cases so far. That have been tested and confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    A textbook approach according to one specific poster on here.
    You've made the fatal mistake of thinking that governments actually care about its citizens. They only do just enough to keep you paying your taxes and ensuring that you are economically productive. If you want to blame anybody, then blame the people who keep on voting for the same two parties!

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