Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Rjk]

Interestingly, the Oxford vaccine has done almost 6 months of testing apparently, compared to the recent ones announced that have only managed three. Expect some bigger news from this one which has been producing it behind the scenes for longer. Surely this one, right in our door step is the one we will get first?

I don't think proximity of the company developing it would make much difference would it?

[Croesy Blue]

I don't think proximity of the company developing it would make much difference would it?

I think we've got a lot more of this one ordered so it will be a bigger deal for us.

[goats]

I think we've got a lot more of this one ordered so it will be a bigger deal for us.

And surely getting something from the USA or a lab in Oxford, the latter would be more straightforward? Sure I heard the Oxford one doesn’t have to be stored at super low temps either

[xsnaggle]

And surely getting something from the USA or a lab in Oxford, the latter would be more straightforward? Sure I heard the Oxford one doesn’t have to be stored at super low temps either

Apparently the UXK Government has pre-purchased several potential vaccines, it just so happened that the latest one reported was not one of them.
The other thing to bear in mind is that the Oxford one costs about £2-3 a shot compared with the other 2 which are about £10+ a shot.
I realise money is not the overriding factor but that kind of disparity certainly helps if they all work.

[lisvaneblue]

Apparently the UXK Government has pre-purchased several potential vaccines, it just so happened that the latest one reported was not one of them.
The other thing to bear in mind is that the Oxford one costs about £2-3 a shot compared with the other 2 which are about £10+ a shot.
I realise money is not the overriding factor but that kind of disparity certainly helps if they all work.

When you look at the cost of lockdowns and the cost of Covid to families and the NHS the price of the vaccine is incidental. The Oxford one will be supplied at cost, but don't forget the UK Gov gave Oxford/AZ many many millions to aid development. They gave Pfizer nothing

[lisvaneblue]

And surely getting something from the USA or a lab in Oxford, the latter would be more straightforward? Sure I heard the Oxford one doesn’t have to be stored at super low temps either

Pfizer will produce the vaccine for UK in Puurs, Belgium, just across the water literally. It will be transported in Pfizer designed specialist boxes containing up to 1,000 vials to ensure its kept at the right temperature. It'll probably be the first one we get.

The Oxford AZ one has yet to publish data so will probably be a little way behind Pfizer. The Moderna vaccine will not be supplied to UK until spring. The other vaccines UK have ordered are some way behind and just entering large scale clinical studies, so my guess we'll see them in the Summer.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Pfizer will produce the vaccine for UK in Puurs, Belgium, just across the water literally. It will be transported in Pfizer designed specialist boxes containing up to 1,000 vials to ensure its kept at the right temperature. It'll probably be the first one we get.

The Oxford AZ one has yet to publish data so will probably be a little way behind Pfizer. The Moderna vaccine will not be supplied to UK until spring. The other vaccines UK have ordered are some way behind and just entering large scale clinical studies, so my guess we'll see them in the Summer.

What potential impediments to the literally seamless transportation from Belgium to the UK could you envisage in the next couple of months?

If it gets fast tracked, what gets slower tracked?

[lisvaneblue]

What potential impediments to the literally seamless transportation from Belgium to the UK could you envisage in the next couple of months?

If it gets fast tracked, what gets slower tracked?

I doubt Brexit will get in the way of this. Both UK and Eu Pharma have pushed for mutual recognition of medicines post Brexit, and it's a two way street with UK supplying many critical medicines to Europe. Pharmaceuticals are generally small ie don't take up much space, so transporting a lot of product isn't usually an issue. As a cold chain product the vaccine will probably be flown into UK.

[cyril evans awaydays]

I doubt Brexit will get in the way of this. Both UK and Eu Pharma have pushed for mutual recognition of medicines post Brexit, and it's a two way street with UK supplying many critical medicines to Europe. Pharmaceuticals are generally small ie don't take up much space, so transporting a lot of product isn't usually an issue. As a cold chain product the vaccine will probably be flown into UK.

Phew. One less thing to worry about. I guess that £100 m backstop to the backstop contract that Grant Shapps was promising will sort this out. The bit I struggled with was that if we are holding the EU hostage because we hold all the cards, when they inevitably fold, what bits of trade that we don't think as essential as life saving vaccines will we think are essential in a couple of months time?

[lardy]

I doubt Brexit will get in the way of this. Both UK and Eu Pharma have pushed for mutual recognition of medicines post Brexit, and it's a two way street with UK supplying many critical medicines to Europe. Pharmaceuticals are generally small ie don't take up much space, so transporting a lot of product isn't usually an issue. As a cold chain product the vaccine will probably be flown into UK.

Yes, they will probably just take the other motorways in Kent, rather than the one that has seven miles of stationary trucks.

[Heisenberg]

Pfizer will produce the vaccine for UK in Puurs, Belgium, just across the water literally. It will be transported in Pfizer designed specialist boxes containing up to 1,000 vials to ensure its kept at the right temperature. It'll probably be the first one we get.

The Oxford AZ one has yet to publish data so will probably be a little way behind Pfizer. The Moderna vaccine will not be supplied to UK until spring. The other vaccines UK have ordered are some way behind and just entering large scale clinical studies, so my guess we'll see them in the Summer.

Is that like America is literally "just across the water"?

[lisvaneblue]

And surely getting something from the USA or a lab in Oxford, the latter would be more straightforward? Sure I heard the Oxford one doesn’t have to be stored at super low temps either

I mentioned that the Pfizer one will be made in Belgium. I forget to mention that the Oxford/AZ vaccine will be made in India, not in the UK.
Both companies have already produced millions of doses at commercial risk, so that they can supply just as soon as they get approval

[goats]

I mentioned that the Pfizer one will be made in Belgium. I forget to mention that the Oxford/AZ vaccine will be made in India, not in the UK.
Both companies have already produced millions of doses at commercial risk, so that they can supply just as soon as they get approval

No doubt if they’ve already produced millions, they will already be here in the UK though?

[cyril evans awaydays]

No doubt if they’ve already produced millions, they will already be here in the UK though?

If you start a sentence with No Doubt , best end it with an exclamation rather than a question mark!

[goats]

If you start a sentence with No Doubt , best end it with an exclamation rather than a question mark!

But it’s the current government that make me question everything, even though it’s a UK company and UK Gov cash.....