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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Encouraging news about the Oxford University vaccine;-

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54993652
    Expect to hear good stuff about this, if my sources are correct. Won’t put my neck right in the block as this isn’t a player signing type stuff....but it’s the best yet AND it’s already here and waiting. No logistical or temperature issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Expect to hear good stuff about this, if my sources are correct. Won’t put my neck right in the block as this isn’t a player signing type stuff....but it’s the best yet AND it’s already here and waiting. No logistical or temperature issues.
    Your sources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    Your sources?
    Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.
    That’s right but this wasn’t them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.
    Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

    So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

    Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

    All good news and the sooner its available the better

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

    So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

    Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

    All good news and the sooner its available the better
    This is what my “mate” told me last week, he said about 90% though, he must have meant the people they gave half a dose, then another full dose too.....still, good news I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Oxford vaccine 70% effective. It uses more traditional technology bit like the flu vaccine and with similar effectiveness.

    So here is a vaccine that is much easier to store and administer but 25% less effective, and it's the one UK has purchased 100m doses of.

    Maybe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines will be given to the elderly and the Oxford rolled out to the general population.

    All good news and the sooner its available the better
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

    Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

    From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

    Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

    From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.
    The maths do make sense. 101 of 10,000 got Covid when given a placebo. In those given the vaccine only 30 got it, which is 70% less than the placebo group, so it's 70% effective.
    Interesting point about the group given a half dose first. No doubt this will be investigated further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    The maths do make sense. 101 of 10,000 got Covid when given a placebo. In those given the vaccine only 30 got it, which is 70% less than the placebo group, so it's 70% effective.
    Interesting point about the group given a half dose first. No doubt this will be investigated further.
    Yes particularly as we have so many doses. I guess even 70 is considered good when our regular flu vaccine is about 50%.

  10. #10

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635

    Interesting line about how the effectiveness rose to 80 per cent in people given an initial half dose and then a full dose.

    From what I understand, this is a field where 50 per cent effectiveness is considered good, so I'm not sure I buy that bit about 70 per cent being a "disappointment" and I don't get how thirty cases of Covid among those who were given the vaccine and 101 in those given a dummy works out at 70 per cent protection when 20,000 people were involved in the testing.
    Up to 90% Bob not 80%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Up to 90% Bob not 80%.
    Thanks, that's what I get for mislaying my glasses again. Thanks also to lisvaneblue for his clarification.

    Another encouraging aspect of this trial is that none of the people involved who caught Covid were hospitalised.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Goats has been on record to say he literally lives next door to 8 doctors and knows a few more so I wouldn't diss him just yet.
    ergo goats is either a student nurse or lives in a loony bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    ergo goats is either a student nurse or lives in a loony bin.
    Definitely the latter, all my life too

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