Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Rjk]

judging the responses by officials today looks like we are in for a long haul not just for a few months

I guess medical equipment can be complex bits of kit to make . the only way I could see it work if say some one like Ford or JCB could assemble only .

meaning keep the same supply chain of parts like injection moulded parts , metal parts , wiring looms ,pcb's etc so you wouldn't have to re qualify those parts with a new supply chain . The supply chain would be the same but they would need to ramp up production to meet demand

Those parts be delivered to say someone like JCB and working with manufacturing engineers from medical device companys copy a production line or model it on an existing line to fully assemble the units

The completed units sent back to a medical device company for testing , software validation and sign off to meet the governance or requirements that is needed to put out into the field .

if we can put a man on the moon in the 60's ( so they say ) I,m sure we could knock up a producton line to meet the requirements that is needed over the next year . obviously a big ask but im sure we have the engineering capability in this country to pull this off after all this a life or death situation

Yeah the only way it would feasibly work is if a company is prepared to sell their design and let you copy their production line. Even then the supply chain is likely to be difficult, and the more you change from the existing state the more work it is, unless they are suggesting we seriously cut some corners.
But we are talking months and months at the minimum. We could need these in weeks if the worst forecasts are correct.

[Heathblue]

Yeah the only way it would feasibly work is if a company is prepared to sell their design and let you copy their production line. Even then the supply chain is likely to be difficult, and the more you change from the existing state the more work it is, unless they are suggesting we seriously cut some corners.
But we are talking months and months at the minimum. We could need these in weeks if the worst forecasts are correct.

Patents can be declared void (I think by the government) for this type of situation.

[Rjk]

Patents can be declared void (I think by the government) for this type of situation.

There's a big difference between declaring a patent void and trying to copy a design, to being handed the entire design history file of a product and their manufacturing information. If they just cancel any patents you would then have to design and verify nthat design which would probably take a long time.

[Heathblue]

There's a big difference between declaring a patent void and trying to copy a design, to being handed the entire design history file of a product and their manufacturing information. If they just cancel any patents you would then have to design and verify nthat design which would probably take a long time.

I'll take your word on that, I was loosely listening to a radio discussion this morning and the guest, cannot remember his name suggested something along the lines of, that patents could be discounted in these times of emergencies for manufacturers to step in and manufacture, like a war time type of thing

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Patents can be declared void (I think by the government) for this type of situation.

I don't think that the patents are declared void, as such. The Patent-owner still retains the IP rights even if the government steps in to use it.

[Heathblue]

I don't think that the patents are declared void, as such. The Patent-owner still retains the IP rights even if the government steps in to use it.

that's what i meant (honest )

[Taunton Blue Genie]

that's what i meant (honest )

Not a problem. By the way, there's one anomaly in the world of Copyright in this country - in that the Copyright, which otherwise expires after a certain time period (and depending on a few factors as to the exact duration period), of Peter Pan is deemed never to expire and that the royalties continue being paid to Great Ormond Street Hospital.

The copyright of Peter Pan in other countries has either already expired or will in the next few years.

[MOZZER2]

Yeah the only way it would feasibly work is if a company is prepared to sell their design and let you copy their production line. Even then the supply chain is likely to be difficult, and the more you change from the existing state the more work it is, unless they are suggesting we seriously cut some corners.
But we are talking months and months at the minimum. We could need these in weeks if the worst forecasts are correct.

totally agree in terms of time we need to cut corners but I,m sure Bojo and his advisers are working on that right now cutting through the red tape of regulations in these serious times . We were looking at medical device products today at lunchtime and looking at the products we think the automotive companys would be best to use for assembly . they have some very clever Manufacturing Engineers both in manual and automated processes . I notice the Vauxhall factories are shutting temporary today for a month or two . won't be a problem finding the people with the right skills that's for sure

[A Quiet Monkfish]

totally agree in terms of time we need to cut corners but I,m sure Bojo and his advisers are working on that right now cutting through the red tape of regulations in these serious times . We were looking at medical device products today at lunchtime and looking at the products we think the automotive companys would be best to use for assembly . they have some very clever Manufacturing Engineers both in manual and automated processes . I notice the Vauxhall factories are shutting temporary today for a month or two . won't be a problem finding the people with the right skills that's for sure

"in the national interest". believe it or not the Govt. can do pretty much what it wants to do with this phrase - even just walk in and commandeer a business for its own use

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Yeah the only way it would feasibly work is if a company is prepared to sell their design and let you copy their production line. Even then the supply chain is likely to be difficult, and the more you change from the existing state the more work it is, unless they are suggesting we seriously cut some corners.
But we are talking months and months at the minimum. We could need these in weeks if the worst forecasts are correct.

It could be done by the patent owner simply issuing licences other parties. Some IP owners don't even have a production line themselves and earn all their income from licensing.