That is on top of my aborted (but largely paid for) trip to see two games in Italy that were called off and my trip to Ireland in two weeks' time to see Carlos Santana, who just cancelled his tour.Originally Posted by delmbox
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That is on top of my aborted (but largely paid for) trip to see two games in Italy that were called off and my trip to Ireland in two weeks' time to see Carlos Santana, who just cancelled his tour.
Ah shit, sorry to hear that, that's a load of bad luck there.
Hmmm, some scientists claim that if we defeat the virus before the summer, it will be back in the winter.
But, this season has to finish. I find it perplexing that the FA are talking about ending the season and adding 2 teams to the Premier League - just so that next season can start. It makes more sense to postpone next season than cancel 7 months of inconclusive fixtures.
People seem fixated on Liverpool having won the league - which they have. But how about in Spain - 2 points separate the top 2. Also, try telling Man U, Wolves and Sheff U that they won't be allowed to finish above Chelsea.
If next season starts before this season finishes, then it essentially tells me that the TV money is the most important thing of all.
People may point out how World war 2 wiped out the 1939/40 season - but that was 6 years (God help us if this is 6 years) and the season was only 3 games old.
No to behind closed doors games.
No to season ending unfinished
No to playing football until active cases are in obvious decline.
Are they still intent on holding it across the entire continent, or will they use common sense and give the tournament to England to host?
Looks like they are planning to isolate the over 70’s for a few months. Seems a very good idea but it’s going to be very hard for the ones I know as they won’t be able to physically see their grandkids. If they could somehow get tests out for everyone else we can all crack on as best we can....,
My old dear is 86 and in poor health anyway
Her grandchildren dont come and visit her much anyway
Mind you nor do her daughters
Mine is 87 and going to find it tough not seeing them as it’s one of few pleasures she has, same for my wife’s olds, only 70 but both have COPD. very hard for these two as they see them a few times a week and have them stay over.
Incubation period is about 14 days so people could show no symptoms and still be a carrier. Be careful everyone
South Korean Foreign Minister Kang Kyung-wha explaining her country's approach to responding to the disease involved openness and transparency on Marr this morning. We have just voted in a government who went out of their way to misinform and avoid scrutiny.
After a confusing 48 hours Health Secretary @MattHancock attempts to reassure the country that the government “has a plan to protect life & to protect the NHS.” He’s not helped by the fact key announcements are being made in unaccountable anonymous briefings to journalists - Nick Robinson, BBC (https://twitter.com/bbcnickrobinson/...30756263424000)
I have a feeling the 'strict' self-isolation for elderly/vulnerable will be framed around a 'threat' to get people to comply - in short that they won't be guaranteed treatment if they catch it. Now, we all know if we end up in the shitstorm Italy are in then difficult decisions need to be made about who to treat but we are not there and this kind of approach could prove the straw that ****s the entire country off.
There's absolutely no way any western govt - except perhaps Germany - is going to be able to enforce these measures for any length of time. Everyone's saying we should do this, do that, etc., but give it a week at most and people will just say 'sod it'. It's a bit like New Year resolutions - full of good intentions to begin with but soon taper off ...
It depends how bad things get i suppose. Ireland have closed all schools i believe, what evidence that is based on i don't know. I'm edging towards keeping things as normal as possible while being sensible. Normality can be predicted and allowed for, sweeping changes can't be predicted by scientists and medical bods. Just be sensible and try not to overload on to much media hype.
I don’t quite get why Ireland shut schools either, it’s one of the reasons it got so bad for the elderly in Italy as it’s the grandparents that look after the kids. Normal People aren’t going to just stop work unless the government agree to pay their bills and mortgages and we all know that won’t happen. Kids not in school, who will look after them? A good few I know my kids age are nurses and Gp’s......
looks like car manufacturers , weapon manufacturers i would guess aerospace in this country will be switching to producing ventilators soon under measures being drawn up by the government in the coming weeks .isolation for under 70's soon too
i,m currently involved in setting up production lines in that field so guess my role is going to change very soon !
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51895873
Swords into ploughshares? We might see some massive shifts in the global economy and culture as a result of this pandemic.
Arms manufacturers switching to medical equipment, carbon footprint way down through reduced travel and some factory closures, a new emphasis on communal care for the elderly and vulnerable, the neoliberal economic model shredded and people all around the world singing opera or pop songs to their neighbours from balconies or backyards (although that bit gets difficult in a barrio or slum township).
I work in medical devices, and the whole idea is fantasy. I can't see it happening in time to have any effect
judging the responses by officials today looks like we are in for a long haul not just for a few months
I guess medical equipment can be complex bits of kit to make . the only way I could see it work if say some one like Ford or JCB could assemble only .
meaning keep the same supply chain of parts like injection moulded parts , metal parts , wiring looms ,pcb's etc so you wouldn't have to re qualify those parts with a new supply chain . The supply chain would be the same but they would need to ramp up production to meet demand
Those parts be delivered to say someone like JCB and working with manufacturing engineers from medical device companys copy a production line or model it on an existing line to fully assemble the units
The completed units sent back to a medical device company for testing , software validation and sign off to meet the governance or requirements that is needed to put out into the field .
if we can put a man on the moon in the 60's ( so they say ) I,m sure we could knock up a producton line to meet the requirements that is needed over the next year . obviously a big ask but im sure we have the engineering capability in this country to pull this off after all this a life or death situation
We don't have the manufacturing capability though and yes, man did land on the moon,
Yeah the only way it would feasibly work is if a company is prepared to sell their design and let you copy their production line. Even then the supply chain is likely to be difficult, and the more you change from the existing state the more work it is, unless they are suggesting we seriously cut some corners.
But we are talking months and months at the minimum. We could need these in weeks if the worst forecasts are correct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-51901372
Is anyone still saying that this is a normal flu?
It's far less deadly than normal flu, believe it or not. 18,000 US citizens had died of flu this winter up until March 5th, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which is a US government agency. Meanwhile the total number of coronavirus deaths worldwide is at 6,500.
The flu has killed far more people than coronavirus. So why all the frenzy about COVID-19?
An estimated 32 million Americans have come down with influenza since this year’s flu season began in late September, resulting in about 18,000 deaths, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
More: https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...virus-covid-19
18 thousand out of 32 million cases. And you're saying it's more deadly than the coronavirus.
By the way. Read past the first handful paragraphs of your linked article.
Again with this? It is 20x more deadly than flu but less people have contracted it.
By this 'logic' conventional weapons are far more dangerous than nuclear because they have killed more at a given point in time.
Point 1 is wrong you only need to look at the mortality rate
Point 2 the worry is because it's very infectious and a lot of people are going to get it plus there is a flu vaccine. Flu has killed more to this point, that won't be the same in 6 months if this isn't managed properly.
Point 3 0.05% mortality rate, covid 19 has a mortality rate of 20% in the over 75s.
I've also got a friend who's a doctor in an Irish hospital and they're having a lot of over 50s admitted to the ICU, it was the same in Italy. So even if it isn't killing people it's putting them in intensive care which means others who might need it won't get it.
If you're over 60 please take this seriously because it is going to get very bad very soon if people don't.
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