Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[MOZZER2]

saw a video yesterday regarding the use of hydroxychloroquine in treating covid patients in the states . some doctors were claiming that this drug along with a few others is an effective treatment in some cases .It first went out on all social media platforms and is claimed the largest viral video ever on social media yet was pulled off twitter , face book etc when it was getting millions of hits

today the doctor that spear headed this was fired from her job . why can't doctors who treat patients have an opinion and freedom to share there medical views with the world ?

https://www.theblaze.com/news/hydrox...g-doctor-fired

[ToTaL ITK]

im calling fake news
trump would never allow a great business opportunity to be fired

[Jordi Culé]

More hysterical media nonsense, needlessly keeping the masses from must visit establishments like ten pin bowling alleys.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53609467

Pubs open, ten pin bowling alleys closed. I’m sure there’s a reason for it somewhere? Perhaps just to keep Goats happy?

[CCFCC3PO]

More hysterical media nonsense, needlessly keeping the masses from must visit establishments like ten pin bowling alleys.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53609467

Pubs open, ten pin bowling alleys closed. I’m sure there’s a reason for it somewhere? Perhaps just to keep Goats happy?

In England, you cannot go to a mate's house. But, you can meet all of your mates in the pub. But Bowling Alleys (where I genuinely think Social distancing would be amazingly easy to do) frequented by younger people (the ones going back to school in September who, we are told, are at low risk of spreading the virus) - you can't meet up there.

How much tax revenue is generated by pubs, I wonder cynically.

[Jordi Culé]

In England, you cannot go to a mate's house. But, you can meet all of your mates in the pub. But Bowling Alleys (where I genuinely think Social distancing would be amazingly easy to do) frequented by younger people (the ones going back to school in September who, we are told, are at low risk of spreading the virus) - you can't meet up there.

How much tax revenue is generated by pubs, I wonder cynically.

As lockdown has eased there’s a number of anomalies in the guidance and restrictions which are questionable. The issue I’m having is these anomalies are not exactly promoting the behaviour the restrictions are aiming to achieve.

That said, I feel for England as the bumbling bean bag has wannked his way to this lack of clarity.

Economically, he’s unable to close the pubs due to the fact furlough is ending. Again Boris spunking money on a scheme which will result in very little is becoming a trade mark of any of his public office tenures.

[CCFCC3PO]

As lockdown has eased there’s a number of anomalies in the guidance and restrictions which are questionable. The issue I’m having is these anomalies are not exactly promoting the behaviour the restrictions are aiming to achieve.

That said, I feel for England as the bumbling bean bag has wannked his way to this lack of clarity.

Economically, he’s unable to close the pubs due to the fact furlough is ending. Again Boris spunking money on a scheme which will result in very little is becoming a trade mark of any of his public office tenures.

It is amusing "2metres apart, but if not 2 metres, then 1 metre". That rule change was brought in to appease the loony element of his party who, in case we forgot, are hell bent on leaving the EU without a deal meaning another big hit on the economy on New Year's Day 2021.

Never mind, perhaps 2022 will be better. They can't **** up 3 years in a row can they?

[Jordi Culé]

It is amusing "2metres apart, but if not 2 metres, then 1 metre". That rule change was brought in to appease the loony element of his party who, in case we forgot, are hell bent on leaving the EU without a deal meaning another big hit on the economy on New Year's Day 2021.

Never mind, perhaps 2022 will be better. They can't **** up 3 years in a row can they?

I’m being cynical but I think the ferret headed spunk bag is purposely spaffing the Covid19 response medically and economically so he has something to blame when Brexit bites the economy firmly on the bollocks. Funnily his reticence to lockdown was influenced because he knows Brexit will bite us economically.

What a ****ing clown we’ve ended up with

He’ll stand in front of the nation, shrugging his shoulders and blaming all and sundry. I wouldn’t be surprised that when the Tory party jettison him he writes in the Telegraph that in his heart of hearts he thought Brexit was a stupid idea and blames a drunken night out with IDS and Gove for his decision to campaign for it.

[Divine Wright]

Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)

[CCFCC3PO]

Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)

Interestingly, and for the first time, this week two colleagues in England asked the same question about what we were allowed to do/not do. One commented that he'd have more confidence living in Wales with the steps being taken; the other commented that things were crazy in England "it's as if it's all gone away, but here it is on its way back again".

[Jordi Culé]

Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)

Well, in comparison with Bishop Stortford...

[goats]

Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)

Wales is still shut....I believe some shops have opened but no one goes to them anyway.

[Jordi Culé]

Wales is still shut....I believe some shops have opened but no one goes to them anyway.

Wales is shut?

I’ve managed to go camping, pick up beer from a shop and sneaked a pint in yesterday. Next week I’m away with the wife and eating out.

All this puritanism is happening in South Wales.

[goats]

Wales is shut?

I’ve managed to go camping, pick up beer from a shop and sneaked a pint in yesterday. Next week I’m away with the wife and eating out.

All this puritanism is happening in South Wales.

You managed to get a pint? Wow, we tried that last weekend but unless you had pre booked, paid a deposit and ordered at least £100 of food you had no chance.....I managed to get one in Forest of Dean 3 days ago, no problem

[goats]

You managed to get a pint? Wow, we tried that last weekend but unless you had pre booked, paid a deposit and ordered at least £100 of food you had no chance.....I managed to get one in Forest of Dean 3 days ago, no problem

Also I totally forgot about masks in England so couldn’t visit any as don’t have any, wife couldn’t even get her fancy coffee. But going into a pub was fine, no mask needed.....

[Jordi Culé]

You managed to get a pint? Wow, we tried that last weekend but unless you had pre booked, paid a deposit and ordered at least £100 of food you had no chance.....I managed to get one in Forest of Dean 3 days ago, no problem

Beer,, in a beer garden. No app needed. It was a few in there, although the location was out the way. Talked to the landlord and he remarked that his bar was so small it’s going to be out of bounds for the foreseeable future, perhaps good. He was looking at how best utilise space in the beer garden.

Outdoor living, drinking and dining is obviously the way forward. Berghaus, Mountain Equipment etc will be doing a roaring trade on insulated jackets and gore tex coats so people can go on the piss. Not sure what they’ll compliment the girls high heels though.

City centre pubs look like a headache to get in. I’m with the wife for the annual cavorting and rummage next week. I think getting mullered is going to be hard work. At least her behaviour will improve.

[CCFCC3PO]

Wales is still shut....I believe some shops have opened but no one goes to them anyway.

Really? Last weekend my partner dragged me to Ikea and I was secretly wishing Wales was shut. Or Ikea.

[goats]

Really? Last weekend my partner dragged me to Ikea and I was secretly wishing Wales was shut. Or Ikea.

Ikea appears to have a cult following, they do let 400 in at a time mind so somewhere to go I guess. Heard John Lewis has in fact opened too, if you could just navigate your way there through the arrows hey

[delmbox]

Wales is still shut....I believe some shops have opened but no one goes to them anyway.

Where do you live? Wales is nowhere near shut, the city centre in Cardiff is heaving. Today I've been to IKEA (socially distanced, queue to get in) then grabbed a pizza from town and went to eat it in the castle (hey TLG we were going to go to the new seating area but it's so popular that both sections had a massive queue of people)

Then went to Jacob's Market and John Lewis (masks, social distancing, hand sanitizers). Loads, if not most shops are open. St Mary's St is wonderful because there's tables out everywhere and people are sat outside in the sun eating and drinking, every table's full and most places have a queue to get a spot.

Honestly I don't know what some of you are looking at with some of the stuff you come out with

[goats]

Where do you live? Wales is nowhere near shut, the city centre in Cardiff is heaving. Today I've been to IKEA (socially distanced, queue to get in) then grabbed a pizza from town and went to eat it in the castle (hey TLG we were going to go to the new seating area but it's so popular that both sections had a massive queue of people)

Then went to Jacob's Market and John Lewis (masks, social distancing, hand sanitizers). Loads, if not most shops are open. St Mary's St is wonderful because there's tables out everywhere and people are sat outside in the sun eating and drinking, every table's full and most places have a queue to get a spot.

Honestly I don't know what some of you are looking at with some of the stuff you come out with

Sounds like it’s open finally, it certainly wasn’t a few weeks ago....well praise the Lord. I just saw a pub near me has opened too....I might just get a pint of Guinness in Cardiff this year after all, not in a Brajns pub mind coz they are uckin shiiite

[xsnaggle]

Sounds like it’s open finally, it certainly wasn’t a few weeks ago....well praise the Lord. I just saw a pub near me has opened too....I might just get a pint of Guinness in Cardiff this year after all, not in a Brajns pub mind coz they are uckin shiiite

I think St Mary St is perfect for that. Long may it continue, and the Hayes should be the same. The only gripe from me is closing Castle St. The knock on effect is huge, and the fact that the council know that and do it anyway rankles. They are supposed to serve the citizens not obstruct them.
I know they are serving them (n0 pun intended) with the eating area but people may go there once a week until the novelty wears off, thousands of people on foot in cars and on buses use it every day, or they would be if the council didn't keep closing it.

[The Lone Gunman]

Not to change the subject but how are you people in Cardiff and Wales doing? (As opposed to England)

The truth is nobody is really sure what the rules are any more.

Some supermarkets are effectively back to normal, but others still have queuing systems to limit numbers. Most of the shops are open and trading, but different guidelines seem to apply to different shops selling exactly the same items and some haven't bothered to open at all yet. Some pubs are open, some aren't. People can only sit outside pubs until Monday, when people can sit inside. People can now congregate in groups of six, or thirty, or maybe thirty six. Nobody's certain and nobody's has explained what will happen if two groups of thirty people congregate next to each other, but nobody really cares either.

Non-essential travel is still discouraged, although you can actually go anywhere whenever you want, unless you want to drive through the centre of Cardiff, which is closed to traffic to enable seven cafes to serve coffee and cakes. There are arrows all over the pavements in the city centre for no apparent reason, but nobody pays any attention to those anyway. Wearing masks on public transport is mandatory, but lots of people don't bother, including some of the drivers, and nobody is enforcing this particular rule or even attempting to. You don't need to wear a mask in any shops.

People are encouraged to work at home, but they can go into work if they need to. Or just want to, provided their bosses let them. Hairdressers are open, gyms are opening next week, but gig venues are still closed. Dentists are open, or closed, depending on what state your teeth are in. Nobody goes to see a doctor anymore unless they are on death's door.

I think that's just about covered it.

[the other bob wilson]

The truth is nobody is really sure what the rules are any more.

Some supermarkets are effectively back to normal, but others still have queuing systems to limit numbers. Most of the shops are open and trading, but different guidelines seem to apply to different shops selling exactly the same items and some haven't bothered to open at all yet. Some pubs are open, some aren't. People can only sit outside pubs until Monday, when people can sit inside. People can now congregate in groups of six, or thirty, or maybe thirty six. Nobody's certain and nobody's has explained what will happen if two groups of thirty people congregate next to each other, but nobody really cares either.

Non-essential travel is still discouraged, although you can actually go anywhere whenever you want, unless you want to drive through the centre of Cardiff, which is closed to traffic to enable seven cafes to serve coffee and cakes. There are arrows all over the pavements in the city centre for no apparent reason, but nobody pays any attention to those anyway. Wearing masks on public transport is mandatory, but lots of people don't bother, including some of the drivers, and nobody is enforcing this particular rule or even attempting to. You don't need to wear a mask in any shops.

People are encouraged to work at home, but they can go into work if they need to. Or just want to, provided their bosses let them. Hairdressers are open, gyms are opening next week, but gig venues are still closed. Dentists are open, or closed, depending on what state your teeth are in. Nobody goes to see a doctor anymore unless they are on death's door.

I think that's just about covered it.

It was a very confused picture offered by my trip to Tesco's Aberdare on Thursday morning - no queue despite the shop being as crowded as I've seen it since Christmas, no one way system any more, I wore a mask and gloves and was in something like a minority of 10 per cent of customers doing so when it came to gloves and about 15 per cent when it came to masks and yet there were much more staff wearing masks (more than 50 per cent I'd say) compared to previous weeks.

[The Lone Gunman]

It was a very confused picture offered by my trip to Tesco's Aberdare on Thursday morning - no queue despite the shop being as crowded as I've seen it since Christmas, no one way system any more, I wore a mask and gloves and was in something like a minority of 10 per cent of customers doing so when it came to gloves and about 15 per cent when it came to masks and yet there were much more staff wearing masks (more than 50 per cent I'd say) compared to previous weeks.

My local Morrisons is basically back to normal other than a ludicrous queuing system inside the shop which actually brings shoppers closer together rather then keeping them apart. I haven't had to queue to get in there at any time during the last two months or so. They've long since taken down almost all of the barriers outside and it's generally as busy in there as it was pre-lockdown.

I've had a couple of strolls through some of the shops in the city centre after work this week. Some have gone to very little effort in terms of social distancing inside. Others have gone to so much effort that people are bumping into each other while trying to follow the occasionally-bizarre one-way systems.

To me, all of that nonsense seems to cause more problems than would be the case if they either simply limited the numbers in the shops or just let people get on with things as normal. Almost all of these places just aren't designed for one-way systems and restricted movement. Trying to herd people in one direction often seems to cause more issues than would arise if they just left people to their own devices.

[goats]

The truth is nobody is really sure what the rules are any more.

Some supermarkets are effectively back to normal, but others still have queuing systems to limit numbers. Most of the shops are open and trading, but different guidelines seem to apply to different shops selling exactly the same items and some haven't bothered to open at all yet. Some pubs are open, some aren't. People can only sit outside pubs until Monday, when people can sit inside. People can now congregate in groups of six, or thirty, or maybe thirty six. Nobody's certain and nobody's has explained what will happen if two groups of thirty people congregate next to each other, but nobody really cares either.

Non-essential travel is still discouraged, although you can actually go anywhere whenever you want, unless you want to drive through the centre of Cardiff, which is closed to traffic to enable seven cafes to serve coffee and cakes. There are arrows all over the pavements in the city centre for no apparent reason, but nobody pays any attention to those anyway. Wearing masks on public transport is mandatory, but lots of people don't bother, including some of the drivers, and nobody is enforcing this particular rule or even attempting to. You don't need to wear a mask in any shops.

People are encouraged to work at home, but they can go into work if they need to. Or just want to, provided their bosses let them. Hairdressers are open, gyms are opening next week, but gig venues are still closed. Dentists are open, or closed, depending on what state your teeth are in. Nobody goes to see a doctor anymore unless they are on death's door.

I think that's just about covered it.

Summed up nicely...basically, like the markings in town, it’s al load of bollocks

[Jordi Culé]

Goats I hope you savoured that pint.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53621613