Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Monster munch]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...edern-18890455

Latest school today in Cardiff. The figures will just go up and up this week I fear.
What a headache this all is.
Can’t see us being able to watch any live football this season at all at this rate.

[goats]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...edern-18890455

Latest school today in Cardiff. The figures will just go up and up this week I fear.
What a headache this all is.
Can’t see us being able to watch any live football this season at all at this rate.

Teachers really need to be more careful with what they do outside school nowadays

[Zowhore]

Looking for a bit of advice, can’t find any guidance online, my wife is a teacher and one of her pupils who shes seen for 3 days last week was showing symptoms this morning and has a covid test. No result yet, but if positive she has to self isolate for 14 days, does that include me or do I need to wait til any symptoms? (Hopefully none) thanks

[Hilts]

Looking for a bit of advice, can’t find any guidance online, my wife is a teacher and one of her pupils who shes seen for 3 days last week was showing symptoms this morning and has a covid test. No result yet, but if positive she has to self isolate for 14 days, does that include me or do I need to wait til any symptoms? (Hopefully none) thanks

I think this would apply.

I presume it would be the same as if she was contact traced.

You wouldnt need to isolate. Unless she develops symptoms.

https://gov.wales/contact-tracing-yo...#section-43134

[BLUETIT]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...wales-54057835

[Monster munch]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54081131

England ban on social groups over 6 people. Basically no house parties as all leisure, work and school facilities to stay open.
How they’ll police pubs and restaurants with people congregating who knows.
With the latest happenings in Caerphilly, and RCT only days away from following the same restrictions - pretty sure Wales as a whole will follow suit.

[Gofer Blue]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54081131

England ban on social groups over 6 people. Basically no house parties as all leisure, work and school facilities to stay open.
How they’ll police pubs and restaurants with people congregating who knows.
With the latest happenings in Caerphilly, and RCT only days away from following the same restrictions - pretty sure Wales as a whole will follow suit.

As these new outbreaks become more frequent and the many will be penalised/inconvenienced by the stupidity of the few I think there will be a trend towards Joe Public reporting incidents to the police along the lines of CrimeStoppers. Whether the police have the manpower to act on all the tip-offs is debatable of course.

[Gofer Blue]

As these new outbreaks become more frequent and the many will be penalised/inconvenienced by the stupidity of the few I think there will be a trend towards Joe Public reporting incidents to the police along the lines of CrimeStoppers. Whether the police have the manpower to act on all the tip-offs is debatable of course.

Looks like it's on its way.

[Rjk]

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...452422151?s=19


how many of these did we commit to buying?

[Gofer Blue]

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/sta...452422151?s=19


how many of these did we commit to buying?

The article you quote says "The AstraZeneca vaccine trials have been halted after the drug gave adverse reaction to a trial participant in the UK". Presumably this is just one participant out of thousands? It seems a bit dramatic to halt the whole trial - I guess it must have been a severe adverse reaction?

[Rjk]

The article you quote says "The AstraZeneca vaccine trials have been halted after the drug gave adverse reaction to a trial participant in the UK". Presumably this is just one participant out of thousands? It seems a bit dramatic to halt the whole trial - I guess it must have been a severe adverse reaction?

there will be predetermined acceptance criteria for the trial, and you have to consider that one adverse reaction in however many vaccines they've trialled so far could scale up to a lot when. you roll it out to millions of people

[goats]

there will be predetermined acceptance criteria for the trial, and you have to consider that one adverse reaction in however many vaccines they've trialled so far could scale up to a lot when. you roll it out to millions of people

There is always a person who is allergic to something though isn’t there?
I really wouldn’t know how many people can meet up in Wales now anyway, is it 10 or 2 families? I can see bars being shut down to stop the 18-30’s spreading it this winter. It’s going to be tough for that age group.

[Rjk]

There is always a person who is allergic to something though isn’t there?

I'm pretty sure they would have thought of that when they were designing the clinical trials tbh.

[the other bob wilson]

What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

[goats]

What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

It is strange, schools only started 2 days ago so can’t be that, students aren’t really here yet or just arriving now.

[jon1959]

It is strange, schools only started 2 days ago so can’t be that, students aren’t really here yet or just arriving now.

Schools could be a factor in England. Most of them started last week or the week before.

We have got a big secondary school over the road from us and a big primary school behind. For well over a week the super-spreaders and their parents have been swarming twice a day with a handful of masks and bugger all social isolation!

[the other bob wilson]

Schools could be a factor in England. Most of them started last week or the week before.

We have got a big secondary school over the road from us and a big primary school behind. For well over a week the super-spreaders and their parents have been swarming twice a day with a handful of masks and bugger all social isolation!

Scotland's figures started going up after a long period where new cases were very low and deaths almost non existent around the same time as they went back to school in mid August, but there is little being said about schools being behind the increase when I would have thought it would be something that would be easy to identify if it were the cause - of course, it may be that Governments would not want the news in the public domain even if it was happening, given the political fall out if they were to have to close again.

[Rjk]

Scotland's figures started going up after a long period where new cases were very low and deaths almost non existent around the same time as they went back to school in mid August, but there is little being said about schools being behind the increase when I would have thought it would be something that would be easy to identify if it were the cause - of course, it may be that Governments would not want the news in the public domain even if it was happening, given the political fall out if they were to have to close again.

the cases they've had in Scotland have not been associated with schools though. the few cases they've had in schools have been teachers who have caught it elsewhere transmitting it to other teachers

[Bluebina]

What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

Could this be the backlash from the Summer Holidays, both in the UK people mixing and moving from one area to another, and maybe drinking and relaxing in a pub indoors in say Cornwall?

Also people going flying in and out of the Country going to Spain, France, Zante and the rest of Greece and the World, no doubt this will have added to the spread of the virus?

[lisvaneblue]

What I don't get about the events of the last few weeks is why are numbers increasing now when for quite a while after shops, pubs, restaurants etc opened and people were allowed to meet up in other's homes the downward trend was continuing? Youngsters are getting the blame for the upward trend, but it seems to me that throughout the summer, there were plenty of instances where young and older people were gathering groups which ran into four figures and yet there was nothing like the dramatic increases seen recently.

I always thought problems would arise once people were allowed to drink inside pubs. I saw an article written a few days before pubs reopened about how drinking habits would have to change and people would have to limit themselves to just a small number of drinks and thinking that's never going to happen. Possibly more than any other country, UK citizens go out to get pissed and with that the control which would have you following social distancing regulations at the start of your night would gradually disappear. So, I'd argue that has something to do with the increases but, as I mentioned, pubs were open for a while without seeing a big increase in new cases.

We were told that September should be a fairly quiet month before autumn hit and the traditional flu season began, but, with August being something of a wash out, has autumn/winter started early this year and could that be a factor - it certainly has had a bit of an autumnal feel lately.

Wales continues with the upward trend and it's becoming more general...165 cases reported today, 33 Caerphilly, 18 Newport, 22 North Wales, 13 Cardiff, 12 Merthyr, 16 neath/Port Talbot/Swansea, 20 Rhondda

[goats]

Wales continues with the upward trend and it's becoming more general...165 cases reported today, 33 Caerphilly, 18 Newport, 22 North Wales, 13 Cardiff, 12 Merthyr, 16 neath/Port Talbot/Swansea, 20 Rhondda

13 cases in a county of over half a million......stock up on the bog roll eh? Ffs.....

[Michael Morris]

Wales continues with the upward trend and it's becoming more general...165 cases reported today, 33 Caerphilly, 18 Newport, 22 North Wales, 13 Cardiff, 12 Merthyr, 16 neath/Port Talbot/Swansea, 20 Rhondda

And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

[goats]

And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

There are no Covid patients in the Heath at the moment, yet I’m not sure the hospital is up and running again saving the lives of far more people who are no doubt avoiding going there at all costs.

[Jordi Culé]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ed-papers-show

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...is-it-feasible

Boris got this under control.



What a ****ing looper.

[lisvaneblue]

And how many of those have been hospitalised and how many have died?

And how do those numbers compare with other more established illnesses.

Isn’t the time coming where we live with the virus rather than try to hide from it

We are capable of living with the virus but many people have a 'not me' attitude and do not follow the rules...handwashing, social distancing, good ventilation..all straightforward stuff.

Got on a 'Valleys Line' train a couple of weeks ago. Some without masks, some ignoring distancing rules, only one window open in the carriage, ....

Yesterday at the fishmonger in Cardiff market, had to ask a couple why they had to rub shoulders with me in order to select some fish.

And we all know about 'illegal' gatherings, crowds outside and inside Clubs, and an inept police force that just seems to look on